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Certified, professional bozo. hmu if u want to look smart in front of strangers lol.
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Add Satan pls. F2P cuz I hate myself. Creator of the Dx2 Demon Prediction Series on the Dx2 Subreddit. Master of writing too damn much.
 
Add Satan pls. F2P cuz I hate myself. Creator of the Dx2 Demon Prediction Series on the Dx2 Subreddit. Master of writing too damn much.
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Currently writing the PVE/PVP demon builds (currently only one or the other for most demons with a few exceptions).
  
 
== About ==
 
== About ==
* PVE achievements: Completed Story, Aura Gate 1&2, Hell's Park and Alt World. Reached Floor 60 of Tokyo Abyss. Defeated Celestial Feng Huang, Baihu and Long. Kiwamis Defeated: Seth,  Lakshmi, Cu Chulainn, Siegfried, Black Frost, Michael, Rama, Garuda, Mot, Orcus, Gogmagog, Izanami, Alice, Susano-o, Mother Harlot, Surt, Vasuki, Asherah, Zaou-Gongen, Lilith, Black Rider, Samael, Kartikeya, Alilat, Sraosha, Tzitzimitl, Erlkonig.
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* Discord: Sir_Suffers#1870
* Favorite Teams so far: Herokado T1 (PVP), Hell Gongen (PVE, although more Gongen and no Hell lol)
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* Faction: Beyonders
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* Friend Code: NKY9E9HV
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* PVE achievements: Completed Story, Aura Gate 1&2, Hell's Park and Alt World. Reached Floor 60 of Tokyo Abyss. Defeated Celestial Feng Huang, Baihu, Gui Xian and Long.  
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* Kiwamis Defeated: Seth,  Lakshmi, Cu Chulainn, Siegfried, Black Frost, Michael, Rama, Garuda, Mot, Orcus, Gogmagog, Izanami, Alice, Susano-o, Mother Harlot, Surt, Vasuki, Asherah, Zaou-Gongen, Lilith, Black Rider, Asura, Samael, Kartikeya, Alilat, Sraosha, Tzitzimitl, Erlkonig, Black Maria, Murmur, Marici.
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* Highest PVP Rank: M3 (4203)
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* Favorite Teams so far: Herokado T1.
 
* Favorite demon in Dx2: Mara (Yes i like the dick. I know, how funny and original...)
 
* Favorite demon in Dx2: Mara (Yes i like the dick. I know, how funny and original...)
 
* Favorite demon of all time: Satan (prefarably the Kaneko version)
 
* Favorite demon of all time: Satan (prefarably the Kaneko version)
 
* Favorite character in Dx2: Carbon Black
 
* Favorite character in Dx2: Carbon Black
 
* Favorite SMT character of all time: Raidou or Aleph (idk cant decide, personality wise: Raidou, lore wise: Aleph)
 
* Favorite SMT character of all time: Raidou or Aleph (idk cant decide, personality wise: Raidou, lore wise: Aleph)
* Favorite SMT Games (Not in order): SMT V, Strange Journey (Base), Soul Hackers, Devil Survivor Overclocked, Digital Devil Saga 1&2 and Persona 2 Innocent Sin
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* Favorite SMT Games (Not in order): Strange Journey (Base), Soul Hackers, Devil Survivor Overclocked, Digital Devil Saga 1&2 and Persona 2 Innocent Sin
* SMT/Megaten Games I'm planning to play/havent played: Megami Tensei 1&2, Devil Children/Demi-kids, Devil Summoner, Kyuyaku Megami Tensei, Majin Tensei 1&2, and Jack Bros (I know im a disgrace of a MegaTen fan lol)
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* SMT/Megaten Games I'm planning to play/havent played: Megami Tensei 1&2, Devil Children/Demi-kids, Devil Summoner, Kyuyaku Megami Tensei, Majin Tensei 1&2.
 
* SMT/Megaten games i dont plan to play: SMT NINE, Persona Q1&2, Persona 3 dancing (Played P5 dancing and realised P3 was gonna be the same lmao), Ronde, IMAGINE (MMOs are not my thing) and Last Bible series.
 
* SMT/Megaten games i dont plan to play: SMT NINE, Persona Q1&2, Persona 3 dancing (Played P5 dancing and realised P3 was gonna be the same lmao), Ronde, IMAGINE (MMOs are not my thing) and Last Bible series.
 
* Favorite Megaten soundtracks (Not in order): SMT V, SMT IV/A, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Devil Survivor, Strange Journey, SMT if, Soul Hackers, Persona 2, and Persona 5.
 
* Favorite Megaten soundtracks (Not in order): SMT V, SMT IV/A, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Devil Survivor, Strange Journey, SMT if, Soul Hackers, Persona 2, and Persona 5.
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== Current PVP Team(s) ==
 
== Current PVP Team(s) ==
===Virus Swordsman===
 
 
{| border=0 align="left"
 
|+'''Dx2: Xana, BS: 54400'''
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Kartikeya|archetype=Clear|skill1=Barrier Break|skill2=Epitome of Swiftness|brands= Speed x2|statreq=P2}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Masakado A|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Auto-Taruka|brands=Divine & Speed|statreq=P1+2}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Skull Knight|archetype=Purple|skill1=Enduring Soul +|skill2=Auto-Rebellion|brands= War & Lead|statreq=P1+2}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Angra Mainyu|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Enduring Soul +|brands=Divine & Speed|statreq=P2}} |}
 
<div style="clear: both;"></div>
 
  
===Chaos Storm===
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===Heaven, Hell, Earth and the Cosmos===
 
{| border=0 align="left"
 
{| border=0 align="left"
|+'''Dx2: Xana, BS: 37600'''
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|+'''Dx2: Xana, BS: 55900 '''
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Masakado A|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Auto-Taruka|brands=Divine & Speed|statreq=P1+2}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Elohim|archetype=Purple|skill1=Fire Survivor|skill2=Fire Amp|brands= Spell + Speed|statreq=P1+2}}
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Lucifer|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Serial Killer|brands=Divine & Speed|statreq=P4}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Masakado A|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Auto-Taruka|brands=Divine & Lead|statreq=P1+2}}
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Anat|archetype=Clear|skill1=Elec Enhancement|skill2=Butcher|brands= Spell & Speed|statreq=P3}}| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Angra Mainyu|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Enduring Soul +|brands=Divine & Speed|statreq=P2}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Astaroth|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Wicked Strike|brands= War + Speed|statreq=P3}}
|}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Nyarlathotep|archetype=Purple|skill1=Force Amp|skill2=Force Enhancement|brands=Spell + Speed|statreq=-}}
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===Eternal Plague===
 
{| border=0 align="left"
 
|+'''Dx2: Xana, BS: 35300'''
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Masakado A|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Auto-Taruka|brands=Divine & Speed|statreq=P1+2}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Skull Knight|archetype=Purple|skill1=Enduring Soul +|skill2=Auto-Rebellion|brands= War & Lead|statreq=P1+2}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Nergal|archetype=Teal|skill1=Epitome of Madness|skill2=Insanity|brands=Sick & Speed|statreq=P3}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Angra Mainyu|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Enduring Soul +|brands=Divine & Speed|statreq=P2}}
 
 
|}
 
|}
 
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== Battle Tower team  ==
 
== Battle Tower team  ==
===Virus Swordsmen===
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===Unlikely Allies===
 
{| border=0 align="left"
 
{| border=0 align="left"
|+'''BS: 33000'''
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|+'''BS: 46600'''
| valign="top" |{{MCBuild|mc=MaleMC|style=Ag|demonite=Fast x3|demonsword=Huang Di|SwordPanel=P1+2|demonshield=Cu Chulainn|ShieldPanel=P3|}}
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| valign="top" |{{MCBuild|mc=MaleMC|style=Ag|demonite=Fast x3|demonsword=Huang Di|SwordPanel=P3|demonshield=Cu Chulainn|ShieldPanel=P3|}}
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Masakado A|archetype=Purple|skill1= -|skill2=Speedster|brands=Divine & Speed|statreq=P1+2}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Masakado A|archetype=Purple|skill1= -|skill2=Speedster|brands=Divine & Lead|statreq=P1+2}}
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Skull Knight|archetype=Purple|skill1=Enduring Soul +|skill2=Auto-Rebellion|brands=War & Lead|statreq=P1+2}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Astaroth|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Wicked Strike|brands=War & Speed|statreq=P1}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Angra Mainyu|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Enduring Soul +|brands=Divines & Speed|statreq=P2}}|}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Angra Mainyu|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Enduring Soul +|brands=Divines & Speed|statreq=P2}}|}
 
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*Other Armament(s) used: Samael Sword + Ixtab Shield
 
*Other Armament(s) used: Samael Sword + Ixtab Shield
  
===Lightspeed Flash===
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== Tier List ==
{| border=0 align="left"
 
|+'''BS: 56175'''
 
| valign="top" |{{MCBuild|mc=MaleMC|style=Ag|demonite=Fast x3|demonsword=Huang Di|SwordPanel=P1+2|demonshield=Cu Chulainn|ShieldPanel=P3|}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Kartikeya|archetype=Clear|skill1=Barrier Break|skill2=Epitome of Swiftness|brands=Speed x2 |statreq=P2}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Hresvelgr|archetype=Purple|skill1= -|skill2=Speedster|brands=Speed x2|statreq=P3}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Angra Mainyu|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Enduring Soul +|brands=Divines & Speed|statreq=P2}}
 
|}
 
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*Hres has blank slot for any attacking skill to complete the sidequests if any. If non, I run Ice Amp.
 
  
== Currently My Favorite PVE Team ==
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* I'm taking the demon's viablity into account based of EVERYTHING the game has to offer (PVE, PVP, Democ, etc.). Demons are ranked with all their panels + optimal brands taken into account.  
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* Actual tiers are arranged in Alphabetical order. The rest are arranged however.
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* This is just a personal opinion don't attack me thx :)
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Shiva|archetype=Red|skill1=Phys Boost|skill2=Phys Amp|brands=War & Lead|statreq=P3, +20 AGI Mitama}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Kartikeya|archetype=Clear|skill1=Solar Downfall|skill2=Offensive Cry|brands=Speed x2|statreq=P2, +20 AGI Mitama}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Zaou-Gongen|archetype=Red|skill1=Epitome of Carnage|skill2=Savage Glee|brands=War & Lead|statreq=P3, +20 AGI Mitama}}
 
| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Mara|archetype=Purple|skill1=Butcher|skill2=Phys Amp|brands=War & Destruct x1|statreq=P3, +7 AGI Mitama}}
 
|}
 
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===Team Breakdown===
 
* Mainly for boss fights like Kiwamis. Super expensive but purely F2P as they are all fusuable and skills can be obtained from genome banners.
 
*Credit to BuffMaister: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8My9Qniq65I&list=PLaoKfFfkcXxD86yBquOSzEhk9NwvdhT7D&index=273 BuffMaister's Kiwami Boss Rush]
 
* Carbon Black/Xana/Kangaroo Boxer as Dx2. Carbon Black for crit damage boost and the potential Tarukaja+Sukukaja, Sukukaja+Sukunda and Rakunda (5 turns). Xana gives extra speed and crit chance. Kangaroo Boxer for both damage and EV/AC and Position Hack for super fast bosses. Either one works fine, but I tend to stick with Carbon Black.
 
* 7 AGI mitama on Mara ensures he speed ties with Zaou so I can adjust who goes first based on the position in the team selection. Generally team order goes Shiva, Karti, Zaou then Mara. Shiva allows me pass into karti so he can cast Offensive Cry on a 1/2 press turn. Zaou goes 3rd to crit (very likely with EOC, Savage Glee, Skanda from Karti and Xana's passive if I use her) and starts the AOE crit loop then P3 mara can thrust and cast Charge.
 
* After the initial set up, Shiva crits, Karti either Mortal Jihads or Offensive Cry (I use support AI so he'll cast it on a new wave if on Auto), Zaou crits gives AOE crits, Mara then can blow his load with a charge+crit Titanomachia to sweep or thrust again to melt HP bars (especially so on the boss if the adds are dead). If the boss doesnt die, Shiva can use God's Hand to crush the boss.
 
===Other Options===
 
* Auto-Rebellion on Zaou makes this a lot more consistent. Tranfer either Great Aim so he can hit or Phys Amp/Boost if you want more damage.
 
* Butcher on Shiva if you want more Vorpal Blade damage, I use Phys Boost for blanket phys damage boost for both Vorpal and God's Hand. If so, I suggest Teal to cover his Ice weakness.
 
* Red Gogmagog can replace Shiva, give him double Guard with as much Phys Def% as possible, transfer Phys Amp and Boost. New turn order should be: Zaou, Karti, Mara, Gog. So Zaou crits, Karti casts Offensive Cry on the 1/2 press turn, Thrust with Mara and Gog can either EQ or Muscle Punch, great for AG2 boss rush (Use Xana for Speed and the 1 MP cost reduction in AG2). Credit: BuffMaister [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eDTUxjee1Y BuffMaister's AG2 Boss Rush video].
 
* Asura Lord also works great for Kiwami thanks to Slaughter All's obscene damage and Endless War for more Crit% increase for Zaou.
 
* Charge Yoshi/Sieg/Gen Masa for kiwami Charge cheese.
 
* Herokado for the extra turn and buff control, either replace 1 damage dealer or Karti (Use kangaroo boxer and reset for Position Hack if not fast enough).
 
* Unconventional yet surprisingly useful is Norn (even better with P2!) her ability to undo any Auto Debuffs and cast Luster Candy boosting your offense and accuracy as well as additional survivability. She is purely a support role, give her War Cry/Acid Breath and Speedster. she can also provide sustain for the party with discounted Mediarahan alongside her decently high MAtk.
 
* Shiva A for unblockable sweeping damage. But he has to go first to not waste the auto rebellion from Ishvara, so you can build him similar to base Shiva above but replace War with Spell/Divine brands with MAtk% and Magic mitama.
 
* Guts/Huang Di for more powerful sweeping Phys damage.
 
* Seth/Guan Yu/Susano-o A/Berserker Guts/Ose Hallel/Ardha/Kali for insane ST phys to nuke down bosses. Special mention to OseH for his Fast Debilitate on boost level 2 with his passive, make sure he's first to not waste his innate auto rebellion. Ardha can provide some sustain with his heals.
 
* Cu Chulainn A/Thor A/Belial for some physical elemental damage if you wanna spice things up.
 
 
 
== The Dx2 Demon Prediction Series ==
 
There are countless number of demons in the Megaten franchise, but what would happen if they were to appear in Shin Megami Tensei Dx2 Liberation? Each new demon added have been given their own identity with their own unique skills and battle abilities, alongside high quality 3D models, breathing new life to them once again. In this series, I'll be making predictions on how demons not in Dx2 would be made and function, each one taking inspiriation from their mythology and appearances in other titles. This is the Demon Prediction Series.
 
 
 
They will all be 5★ just for convenience sake lol.
 
(This is just for fun and not to be taken seriously, and no this is not a leak either)
 
 
 
I will add more every week.
 
 
 
===Season 1 (The Beginning)===
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/o7hcyn/demon_prediction_1/ Cerberus A]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/ocpzcr/demon_prediction_2/ Lucifroz]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/ohclj7/demon_prediction_3/ Lugh]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/ol82ma/demon_prediction_4/ Lucifer A]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/optw4r/demon_prediction_5/ Merkabah]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/ouzxts/demon_prediction_6/ Maria]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/ozlzxc/demon_prediction_7/ Demeter]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/p3ey16/demon_prediction_8/ Cthulhu]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/p8k80l/demon_prediction_9/ Wukong A]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/pd24dm/demon_prediction_10/ Satan]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/pgvyo0/demon_prediction_11/ Mara A]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/pldblt/demon_prediction_12/ Inanna]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/ppq8yl/demon_prediction_13/ Odin A]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/pu92qu/demon_prediction_14/ Maitreya]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/pyyskg/demon_prediction_15/ Krishna]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/q3kva2/demon_prediction_16/ Zeus]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/q8n0hp/demon_prediction_17/ Muspell]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/qdsbe3/demon_prediction_18/ Mada]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/qicli7/demon_prediction_19/ Bael]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/qnbc1o/demon_prediction_20/ Satan A]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/qsbbua/demon_prediction_21_smt_v_edition/ Fionn mac Cumhaill]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/qxd6ul/demon_prediction_22_smt_v_edition/ Hydra]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/r2l0mk/demon_prediction_23_smt_v_edition/ Idun]
 
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/r7x8t0/demon_prediction_24/ Hayataro]
 
 
 
===Season 2 (Community Support)===
 
 
 
== Tier List ==
 
  
* I'm taking the demon's viablity into account based of EVERYTHING the game has to offer (PVE, PVP, Democ, etc.). Demons are ranked with all their panels + optimal brands taken into account. This is just a personal opinion don't attack me thx :)
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===Ranking explanations===
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* SSS: Excels in a large majority of the game. Little to no flaws. Defines each gamemode's meta. The game revolves around them.
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* SS: A must have for any player. Can do extremely well in most gamemodes. Broken.
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* S: Great staple demons. No reason to not use them in at least 1 or 2 gamemodes.
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* A: Strong demons. Powerful and useful. Has a few minor weaknesses and can be outclassed by other demons but still great nonetheless.
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* B: Above average demons. Good but there are better options. Provide certain niches.
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* C: Average. Provide very few niches, mainly and usually ONLY Democ. Most fusuables go here sadge.
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* D: Below Average. Why even bother...
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* F: Bad. Better off as a skill transfer, karma or fusion fodder. Might as well be 3 star.
  
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===Overall demon tier list===
 
{| class="wikitable" style="display: inline-table; margin-right: 10px; text-align: center; max-width: 605px;"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="display: inline-table; margin-right: 10px; text-align: center; max-width: 605px;"
|+ Overall demon tier list
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|+ My tier list
 
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! Score !! Demons
 
! Score !! Demons
 
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! meme kekw
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! meme
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Mara}}{{DemonIconBeta|Jack Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|Pyro Jack}}{{DemonIconBeta|Jack the Ripper}}{{DemonIconBeta|Frost Ace}}{{DemonIconBeta|Demonee-Ho}}{{DemonIconBeta|Black Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|King Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mothman}}{{DemonIconBeta|Fafnir}}
 
{{DemonIconBeta|Mara}}{{DemonIconBeta|Jack Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|Pyro Jack}}{{DemonIconBeta|Jack the Ripper}}{{DemonIconBeta|Frost Ace}}{{DemonIconBeta|Demonee-Ho}}{{DemonIconBeta|Black Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|King Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mothman}}{{DemonIconBeta|Fafnir}}
 
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!Armaments (Demons that have become exclusively/mostly SnS fodder)
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!SSS
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{{DemonIconBeta|Huang Di}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lakshmi}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cu Chulainn}}{{DemonIconBeta|Frost Ace}}{{DemonIconBeta|Rama}}{{DemonIconBeta|Asura}}{{DemonIconBeta|Samael}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ixtab}}{{DemonIconBeta|Gogmagog}}
 
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!SSS (Excels in a large majority of the game. Little to no flaws. Defines each gamemode's meta. The game revolves around them)
 
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Masakado A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Beelzebub☆}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Astaroth}}{{DemonIconBeta|Beelzebub☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Masakado A}}
 
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!SS (A must have for any player. Can do extremely well in most gamemodes. Broken)
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!SS
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Angra Mainyu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Alice A}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Adramelech}}{{DemonIconBeta|Elohim}}{{DemonIconBeta|Maria}}{{DemonIconBeta|Nyarlathotep}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vishnu A}}
 
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! S (Great staple demons. No reason to not use them in at least 1 or 2 gamemodes)
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! S
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Daisoujou}}{{DemonIconBeta|Koga Saburo}}{{DemonIconBeta|Skull Knight}}{{DemonIconBeta|Shiva A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Anat}}{{DemonIconBeta|Atavaka}}{{DemonIconBeta|Xi Wangmu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lachesis}}{{PanelDemonIconBeta|3CAtropos}}{{DemonIconBeta|Kartikeya}}{{DemonIconBeta|Sraosha}}{{DemonIconBeta|Masakado}}{{DemonIconBeta|Demiurge}}{{DemonIconBeta|Flauros Hallel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ose Hallel}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Arioch}}{{DemonIconBeta|Asura Lord}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cerberus A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cthulhu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Demiurge}}{{DemonIconBeta|Fariedone}}{{DemonIconBeta|Koga Saburo}}
 
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! A (Strong demons. Powerful and useful. Has a few minor weaknesses and can be outclassed by other demons)
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! A
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Hresvelgr}}{{DemonIconBeta|Asura Lord}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ardha}}{{DemonIconBeta|Yoshitsune}}{{DemonIconBeta|Berserker Guts}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cu Chulainn A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Baal}}{{DemonIconBeta|Clotho}}{{DemonIconBeta|Guan Yu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Guts}}{{DemonIconBeta|Hecate}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lucifer}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vairocana}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mahamayuri}}{{DemonIconBeta|Quetzalcoatl A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lilith A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Surt A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Zaou-Gongen}}{{DemonIconBeta|Erlkonig}}{{DemonIconBeta|Orcus}}
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! B (Above average demons. Good but there are better options. Provides a certain niche)
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! B
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Alice}}{{DemonIconBeta|Alilat}}{{DemonIconBeta|Aniel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Asherah}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mother Harlot}}{{DemonIconBeta|Motoko Kusanagi}}{{DemonIconBeta|David}}{{DemonIconBeta|Gabriel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Garuda}}{{DemonIconBeta|Garuda A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Gogmagog}}{{DemonIconBeta|Nergal}}{{DemonIconBeta|Indrajit}}{{DemonIconBeta|Kali}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lakshmi A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mahakala}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mot}}{{DemonIconBeta|Nebiros}}{{DemonIconBeta|Pale Rider}}{{DemonIconBeta|Rama}}{{DemonIconBeta|Raphael}}{{DemonIconBeta|Red Rider}}{{DemonIconBeta|Samael}}{{DemonIconBeta|Shiva}}{{DemonIconBeta|Siegfried}}{{DemonIconBeta|Susano-o A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Thor A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Tokisada}}{{DemonIconBeta|Uriel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vishnu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Beelzebub (Human)}}{{DemonIconBeta|Black Rider}}{{DemonIconBeta|Huang Long}}{{DemonIconBeta|Master Therion}}{{DemonIconBeta|Seth}}{{DemonIconBeta|Barong}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lucifuge}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mara}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Alice}}{{DemonIconBeta|Alilat}}{{DemonIconBeta|Aniel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Asherah}}{{DemonIconBeta|Asura}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ban}}{{DemonIconBeta|Barong}}{{DemonIconBeta|Black Rider}}{{DemonIconBeta|David}}{{DemonIconBeta|Gabriel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Garuda}}{{DemonIconBeta|Garuda A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Gogmagog}}{{DemonIconBeta|Huang Long}}{{DemonIconBeta|Indrajit}}{{DemonIconBeta|Kali}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lakshmi A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lucifuge}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mahakala}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mara}}{{DemonIconBeta|Master Therion}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mot}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mother Harlot}}{{DemonIconBeta|Motoko Kusanagi}}{{DemonIconBeta|Nebiros}}{{DemonIconBeta|Nergal}}{{DemonIconBeta|Pale Rider}}{{DemonIconBeta|Pales}}{{DemonIconBeta|Rama}}{{DemonIconBeta|Raphael}}{{DemonIconBeta|Red Rider}}{{DemonIconBeta|Samael}}{{DemonIconBeta|Samyaza}}{{DemonIconBeta|Seth}}{{DemonIconBeta|Shiva}}{{DemonIconBeta|Siegfried}}{{DemonIconBeta|Skull Knight}}{{DemonIconBeta|Susano-o A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Tezcatlipoca}}{{DemonIconBeta|Thor A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Tokisada}}{{DemonIconBeta|Uriel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vishnu}}
 
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! C (Average. Provides very few niches. Most fusuables go here)
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! C
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Amaterasu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Azazel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ananta}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ixtab}}{{DemonIconBeta|Belial}}{{DemonIconBeta|Frost Ace}}{{DemonIconBeta|Pales}}{{DemonIconBeta|Nero☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Dante☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Murmur}}{{DemonIconBeta|Gemori}}{{DemonIconBeta|Asura}}{{DemonIconBeta|Batou}}{{DemonIconBeta|Yama}}{{DemonIconBeta|Tzitzimitl}}{{DemonIconBeta|Griffith}}{{DemonIconBeta|Maya}}{{DemonIconBeta|Surt}}{{DemonIconBeta|Marici}}{{DemonIconBeta|Black Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cernunnos}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cu Chulainn}}{{DemonIconBeta|Demonee-Ho}}{{DemonIconBeta|Flauros}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ishtar}}{{DemonIconBeta|Izanami}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lilith}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mastema}}{{DemonIconBeta|Metatron}}{{DemonIconBeta|Michael}}{{DemonIconBeta|Susano-o}}{{DemonIconBeta|Thor}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vasuki}}{{DemonIconBeta|V☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Zodd}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cybele}}{{DemonIconBeta|Norn}}{{DemonIconBeta|Schierke}}{{DemonIconBeta|Seraph}}{{DemonIconBeta|Huang Di}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Amaterasu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Azazel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Batou}}{{DemonIconBeta|Belial}}{{DemonIconBeta|Black Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cernunnos}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cu Chulainn}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cybele}}{{DemonIconBeta|Dante☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Demonee-Ho}}{{DemonIconBeta|Flauros}}{{DemonIconBeta|Frost Ace}}{{DemonIconBeta|Gemori}}{{DemonIconBeta|Griffith}}{{DemonIconBeta|Huang Di}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ishtar}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ixtab}}{{DemonIconBeta|Izanami}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lilith}}{{DemonIconBeta|Marici}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mastema}}{{DemonIconBeta|Maya}}{{DemonIconBeta|Metatron}}{{DemonIconBeta|Michael}}{{DemonIconBeta|Murmur}}{{DemonIconBeta|Nero☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Norn}}{{DemonIconBeta|Schierke}}{{DemonIconBeta|Seraph}}{{DemonIconBeta|Surt}}{{DemonIconBeta|Susano-o}}{{DemonIconBeta|Thor}}{{DemonIconBeta|Tzitzimitl}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vasuki}}{{DemonIconBeta|V☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Yama}}{{DemonIconBeta|Zodd}}
 
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! D (Below Average. Why even bother)
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! D
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Bayonetta☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Jeanne☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lakshmi}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mozgus}}{{DemonIconBeta|Quetzalcoatl}}{{DemonIconBeta|Black Maria}}{{DemonIconBeta|Trumpeter}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Ananta}}{{DemonIconBeta|Bayonetta☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Black Maria}}{{DemonIconBeta|Jeanne☆}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lakshmi}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mozgus}}{{DemonIconBeta|Quetzalcoatl}}{{DemonIconBeta|Trumpeter}}
 
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! F (Bad. Waste of space. Better off as a skill transfer, karma or fusion fodder. Might as well be 3 star)
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! F
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Fafnir}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Elizabeth}}{{DemonIconBeta|Fafnir}}
 
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^ Look im stil working on it.
 
 
I swear to YHVH, ban/nerf Ubeelze. F*** the fly.
 

Latest revision as of 08:22, 2 September 2022

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Add Satan pls. F2P cuz I hate myself. Creator of the Dx2 Demon Prediction Series on the Dx2 Subreddit. Master of writing too damn much. Currently writing the PVE/PVP demon builds (currently only one or the other for most demons with a few exceptions).

About

  • Discord: Sir_Suffers#1870
  • Faction: Beyonders
  • Friend Code: NKY9E9HV
  • PVE achievements: Completed Story, Aura Gate 1&2, Hell's Park and Alt World. Reached Floor 60 of Tokyo Abyss. Defeated Celestial Feng Huang, Baihu, Gui Xian and Long.
  • Kiwamis Defeated: Seth, Lakshmi, Cu Chulainn, Siegfried, Black Frost, Michael, Rama, Garuda, Mot, Orcus, Gogmagog, Izanami, Alice, Susano-o, Mother Harlot, Surt, Vasuki, Asherah, Zaou-Gongen, Lilith, Black Rider, Asura, Samael, Kartikeya, Alilat, Sraosha, Tzitzimitl, Erlkonig, Black Maria, Murmur, Marici.
  • Highest PVP Rank: M3 (4203)
  • Favorite Teams so far: Herokado T1.
  • Favorite demon in Dx2: Mara (Yes i like the dick. I know, how funny and original...)
  • Favorite demon of all time: Satan (prefarably the Kaneko version)
  • Favorite character in Dx2: Carbon Black
  • Favorite SMT character of all time: Raidou or Aleph (idk cant decide, personality wise: Raidou, lore wise: Aleph)
  • Favorite SMT Games (Not in order): Strange Journey (Base), Soul Hackers, Devil Survivor Overclocked, Digital Devil Saga 1&2 and Persona 2 Innocent Sin
  • SMT/Megaten Games I'm planning to play/havent played: Megami Tensei 1&2, Devil Children/Demi-kids, Devil Summoner, Kyuyaku Megami Tensei, Majin Tensei 1&2.
  • SMT/Megaten games i dont plan to play: SMT NINE, Persona Q1&2, Persona 3 dancing (Played P5 dancing and realised P3 was gonna be the same lmao), Ronde, IMAGINE (MMOs are not my thing) and Last Bible series.
  • Favorite Megaten soundtracks (Not in order): SMT V, SMT IV/A, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Devil Survivor, Strange Journey, SMT if, Soul Hackers, Persona 2, and Persona 5.
  • Enjoys doing hard/dumb megaten challenge runs (low level, no fusion, no items, no buffs/debuffs, etc.) cuz I hate myself and I am pushing the boundaries of my sanity.
  • Avid TCG player.
  • Hates Twitter.

Current PVP Team(s)

Heaven, Hell, Earth and the Cosmos

Dx2: Xana, BS: 55900
ArchPurple.png Elohim.jpg Elohim
Skills
Fire Survivor
Fire Amp
Brands
Spell + Speed
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Masakado A.jpg Masakado A
Skills
Speedster
Auto-Taruka
Brands
Divine & Lead
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Astaroth.jpg Astaroth
Skills
Speedster
Wicked Strike
Brands
War + Speed
Requirements
P3
ArchPurple.png Nyarlathotep.jpg Nyarlathotep
Skills
Force Amp
Force Enhancement
Brands
Spell + Speed
Requirements
-

Battle Tower team

Unlikely Allies

BS: 46600
McAg.png MaleMC.png Ag Style
Demonite
Fast x3
SwordIcon.png
Huang Di.jpg
ShieldIcon.png
Cu Chulainn.jpg
ArchPurple.png Masakado A.jpg Masakado A
Skills
-
Speedster
Brands
Divine & Lead
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Astaroth.jpg Astaroth
Skills
Speedster
Wicked Strike
Brands
War & Speed
Requirements
P1
ArchPurple.png Angra Mainyu.jpg Angra Mainyu
Skills
Speedster
Enduring Soul +
Brands
Divines & Speed
Requirements
P2
  • Herokado has blank slot for any attacking skill to complete the sidequests if any. If non, I run Auto-Taruka.
  • Other Armament(s) used: Samael Sword + Ixtab Shield

Tier List

  • I'm taking the demon's viablity into account based of EVERYTHING the game has to offer (PVE, PVP, Democ, etc.). Demons are ranked with all their panels + optimal brands taken into account.
  • Actual tiers are arranged in Alphabetical order. The rest are arranged however.
  • This is just a personal opinion don't attack me thx :)

Ranking explanations

  • SSS: Excels in a large majority of the game. Little to no flaws. Defines each gamemode's meta. The game revolves around them.
  • SS: A must have for any player. Can do extremely well in most gamemodes. Broken.
  • S: Great staple demons. No reason to not use them in at least 1 or 2 gamemodes.
  • A: Strong demons. Powerful and useful. Has a few minor weaknesses and can be outclassed by other demons but still great nonetheless.
  • B: Above average demons. Good but there are better options. Provide certain niches.
  • C: Average. Provide very few niches, mainly and usually ONLY Democ. Most fusuables go here sadge.
  • D: Below Average. Why even bother...
  • F: Bad. Better off as a skill transfer, karma or fusion fodder. Might as well be 3 star.

Overall demon tier list

My tier list
Score Demons
meme

Mara.jpgJack Frost.jpgPyro Jack.jpgJack the Ripper.jpgFrost Ace.jpgDemonee-Ho.jpgBlack Frost.jpgKing Frost.jpgMothman.jpgFafnir.jpg

SSS

Astaroth.jpgBeelzebub☆.jpgMasakado A.jpg

SS

Adramelech.jpgElohim.jpgMaria.jpgNyarlathotep.jpgVishnu A.jpg

S

Arioch.jpgAsura Lord.jpgCerberus A.jpgCthulhu.jpgDemiurge.jpgFariedone.jpgKoga Saburo.jpg

A

Alice A.jpgAnahita.jpgAnat.jpgAngra Mainyu.jpgArdha.jpgAtavaka.jpg3CAtropos.jpgBaal.jpgBeelzebub (Human).jpgBerserker Guts.jpgClotho.jpgCu Chulainn A.jpgDaisoujou.jpgEchidna.jpgErlkonig.jpgFlauros Hallel.jpgFutsunushi.jpgGuan Yu.jpgGuts.jpgHecate.jpgHeimdall.jpgHresvelgr.jpgKartikeya.jpgLachesis.jpgLanling Wang.jpgLadon.jpgLilith A.jpgLucifer.jpgMada.jpgMahamayuri.jpgMasakado.jpgMeliodas.jpgOrcus.jpgOse Hallel.jpgQuetzalcoatl A.jpgShiva A.jpgSraosha.jpgSurt A.jpgVairocana.jpgVritra.jpgXi Wangmu.jpgYoshitsune.jpgZaou-Gongen.jpg

B

Alice.jpgAlilat.jpgAniel.jpgAsherah.jpgAsura.jpgBan.jpgBarong.jpgBlack Rider.jpgDavid.jpgGabriel.jpgGaruda.jpgGaruda A.jpgGogmagog.jpgHuang Long.jpgIndrajit.jpgKali.jpgLakshmi A.jpgLucifuge.jpgMahakala.jpgMara.jpgMaster Therion.jpgMot.jpgMother Harlot.jpgMotoko Kusanagi.jpgNebiros.jpgNergal.jpgPale Rider.jpgPales.jpgRama.jpgRaphael.jpgRed Rider.jpgSamael.jpgSamyaza.jpgSeth.jpgShiva.jpgSiegfried.jpgSkull Knight.jpgSusano-o A.jpgTezcatlipoca.jpgThor A.jpgTokisada.jpgUriel.jpgVishnu.jpg

C

Amaterasu.jpgAzazel.jpgBatou.jpgBelial.jpgBlack Frost.jpgCernunnos.jpgCu Chulainn.jpgCybele.jpgDante☆.jpgDemonee-Ho.jpgFlauros.jpgFrost Ace.jpgGemori.jpgGriffith.jpgHuang Di.jpgIshtar.jpgIxtab.jpgIzanami.jpgLilith.jpgMarici.jpgMastema.jpgMaya.jpgMetatron.jpgMichael.jpgMurmur.jpgNero☆.jpgNorn.jpgSchierke.jpgSeraph.jpgSurt.jpgSusano-o.jpgThor.jpgTzitzimitl.jpgVasuki.jpgV☆.jpgYama.jpgZodd.jpg

D

Ananta.jpgBayonetta☆.jpgBlack Maria.jpgJeanne☆.jpgLakshmi.jpgMozgus.jpgQuetzalcoatl.jpgTrumpeter.jpg

F

Elizabeth.jpgFafnir.jpg