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Hi. I hate myself and therefore play this F2P lol.
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Certified, professional bozo. hmu if u want to look smart in front of strangers lol.
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Add Satan pls. Hee Ho!
 
  
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== Extra stuff ==
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Add Satan pls. F2P cuz I hate myself. Creator of the Dx2 Demon Prediction Series on the Dx2 Subreddit. Master of writing too damn much.
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* Favorite Team so far: Herokado T1(PVP), Hell Gongen(PVE, although more Gongen and no Hell lol)
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Currently writing the PVE/PVP demon builds (currently only one or the other for most demons with a few exceptions).
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== About ==
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* Discord: Sir_Suffers#1870
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* Faction: Beyonders
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* Friend Code: NKY9E9HV
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* PVE achievements: Completed Story, Aura Gate 1&2, Hell's Park and Alt World. Reached Floor 60 of Tokyo Abyss. Defeated Celestial Feng Huang, Baihu, Gui Xian and Long.
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* Kiwamis Defeated: Seth,  Lakshmi, Cu Chulainn, Siegfried, Black Frost, Michael, Rama, Garuda, Mot, Orcus, Gogmagog, Izanami, Alice, Susano-o, Mother Harlot, Surt, Vasuki, Asherah, Zaou-Gongen, Lilith, Black Rider, Asura, Samael, Kartikeya, Alilat, Sraosha, Tzitzimitl, Erlkonig, Black Maria, Murmur, Marici.
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* Highest PVP Rank: M3 (4203)
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* Favorite Teams so far: Herokado T1.
 
* Favorite demon in Dx2: Mara (Yes i like the dick. I know, how funny and original...)
 
* Favorite demon in Dx2: Mara (Yes i like the dick. I know, how funny and original...)
 
* Favorite demon of all time: Satan (prefarably the Kaneko version)
 
* Favorite demon of all time: Satan (prefarably the Kaneko version)
 
* Favorite character in Dx2: Carbon Black
 
* Favorite character in Dx2: Carbon Black
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* Favorite SMT character of all time: Raidou or Aleph (idk cant decide, personality wise: Raidou, lore wise: ALeph)
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* Favorite SMT character of all time: Raidou or Aleph (idk cant decide, personality wise: Raidou, lore wise: Aleph)
 
* Favorite SMT Games (Not in order): Strange Journey (Base), Soul Hackers, Devil Survivor Overclocked, Digital Devil Saga 1&2 and Persona 2 Innocent Sin
 
* Favorite SMT Games (Not in order): Strange Journey (Base), Soul Hackers, Devil Survivor Overclocked, Digital Devil Saga 1&2 and Persona 2 Innocent Sin
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* SMT/Megaten Games I'm planning to play/havent played: Megami Tensei 1&2, Devil Children/Demi-kids, Devil Summoner, Kyuyaku Megami Tensei, Majin Tensei 1&2, SMT V(Obviously lmao) and Jack Bros (I know im a disgrace of a MegaTen fan lol)
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* SMT/Megaten Games I'm planning to play/havent played: Megami Tensei 1&2, Devil Children/Demi-kids, Devil Summoner, Kyuyaku Megami Tensei, Majin Tensei 1&2.
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* SMT/Megaten games i dont plan to play: SMT NINE, Persona Q1&2, Persona 3 dancing(Played P5 dancing and realised P3 was gonna be the same lmao), Ronde, IMAGINE(MMOs are not my thing) and Last Bible series.
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* SMT/Megaten games i dont plan to play: SMT NINE, Persona Q1&2, Persona 3 dancing (Played P5 dancing and realised P3 was gonna be the same lmao), Ronde, IMAGINE (MMOs are not my thing) and Last Bible series.
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* Favorite SMT soundtracks: SMT IV/A, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Devil Survivor, Strange Journey, SMT if, Soul Hackers, Persona 2, and Persona 5.
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* Favorite Megaten soundtracks (Not in order): SMT V, SMT IV/A, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Devil Survivor, Strange Journey, SMT if, Soul Hackers, Persona 2, and Persona 5.
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* Enjoys doing hard/dumb megaten challenge runs (low level, no fusion, no items, no buffs/debuffs, etc.) cuz I hate myself and I am pushing the boundaries of my sanity.
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* Avid TCG player.
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* Hates Twitter.
  
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== My Current PVP Offense Team ==
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== Current PVP Team(s) ==
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===Heaven, Hell, Earth and the Cosmos===
 
{| border=0 align="left"
 
{| border=0 align="left"
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|+'''QuetzA + Nid Randoms'''
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Quetzalcoatl A|archetype=Purple|skill1=Agilao L|skill2=Fire Boost|brands=Divine, Speed|statreq=P1+P2}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Elohim|archetype=Purple|skill1=Fire Survivor|skill2=Fire Amp|brands= Spell + Speed|statreq=P1+2}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Nidhoggr|archetype=Teal|skill1=Null Charm|skill2=Recarmdra|brands=Life, Ward|statreq=P3}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Masakado A|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Auto-Taruka|brands=Divine & Lead|statreq=P1+2}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Skull Knight|archetype=Purple|skill1=Enduring Soul +|skill2=Auto-Rebellion|brands=War, Speed|statreq=P1+P2}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Astaroth|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Wicked Strike|brands= War + Speed|statreq=P3}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Daisoujou|archetype=Purple|skill1=Recarmdra|skill2=Barrier Break|brands=Life, Speed|statreq=P3}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Nyarlathotep|archetype=Purple|skill1=Force Amp|skill2=Force Enhancement|brands=Spell + Speed|statreq=-}}
 
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== Currently My Favorite PVE Team ==
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== Battle Tower team  ==
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===Unlikely Allies===
 
{| border=0 align="left"
 
{| border=0 align="left"
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|+'''Gongen and the Bois'''
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|+'''BS: 46600'''
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Zaou-Gongen|archetype=Red|skill1=Epitome of Carnage|skill2=Savage Glee|brands=War, Lead|statreq=P3, +20 AGI Mitama}}
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| valign="top" |{{MCBuild|mc=MaleMC|style=Ag|demonite=Fast x3|demonsword=Huang Di|SwordPanel=P3|demonshield=Cu Chulainn|ShieldPanel=P3|}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Kartikeya|archetype=Clear|skill1=Auto-Sukunda|skill2=Offensive Cry|brands=Speed, Speed|statreq=P2, +20 AGI Mitama}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Masakado A|archetype=Purple|skill1= -|skill2=Speedster|brands=Divine & Lead|statreq=P1+2}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Mara|archetype=Purple|skill1=Butcher|skill2=Phys Amp|brands=War|statreq=P3, +7 AGI Mitama}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Astaroth|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Wicked Strike|brands=War & Speed|statreq=P1}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Shiva|archetype=Red|skill1=Phys Boost|skill2=Phys Amp|brands=War, Lead|statreq=P3, +20 AGI Mitama}}
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| valign="top" |{{DemonBuild:Thin|demon=Angra Mainyu|archetype=Purple|skill1=Speedster|skill2=Enduring Soul +|brands=Divines & Speed|statreq=P2}}|}
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===Team Breakdown===
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*Herokado has blank slot for any attacking skill to complete the sidequests if any. If non, I run Auto-Taruka.
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* Mainly for boss fights like Kiwamis. Super expensive but purely F2P as they are all fusuable and skills can be obtained from genome banners.
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*Other Armament(s) used: Samael Sword + Ixtab Shield
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*Credit to BuffMaister: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8My9Qniq65I&list=PLaoKfFfkcXxD86yBquOSzEhk9NwvdhT7D&index=273 BuffMaister's Kiwami Boss Rush]
 
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* Carbon Black/Xana/Kangaroo Boxer as Dx2. Carbon Black for crit damage boost and the potential Tarukaja+Sukukaja, Sukukaja+Sukunda and Rakunda (5 turns). Xana gives extra speed and crit chance. Kangaroo Boxer for both damage and EV/AC and Position Hack for super fast bosses. Either one works fine, but I tend to stick with Carbon Black.
 
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* 7 AGI mitama on Mara ensures he speed ties with Zaou so I can adjust who goes first based on the position in the team selection. Generally team order goes Shiva, Karti, Zaou then Mara. Shiva allows me pass into karti so he can cast Offensive Cry on a 1/2 press turn. Zaou goes 3rd to crit (very likely with EOC, Savage Glee, Skanda from Karti and Xana's passive if I use her) and starts the aoe crit loop then P3 mara can thrust and cast Charge.
 
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* After the initial set up, Shiva crits, Karti either Mortal Jihads or Offensive Cry (I use support AI so he'll cast it on a new wave if on Auto), Zaou crits gives aoe crits, Mara then can blow his load with a charge+crit Titanomachia to sweep or thrust again to melt HP bars (especially so on the boss if the adds are dead). If the boss doesnt die, Shiva can use God's Hand to crush the boss.
 
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===Other Options===
 
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* Auto-Rebellion on Zaou makes this a lot more consistent. Tranfer either Great Aim so he can hit or Phys Amp/Boost if you want more damage.
 
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* Butcher on Shiva if you want more Vorpal Blade damage, I use Phys Boost for blanket phys damage boost for both Vorpal and God's Hand. If so, I suggest Teal to cover his Ice weakness.
 
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* Red Gogmagog can replace Shiva, give him double Guard with as much Phys Def% as possible, transfer Phys Amp and Boost. New turn order should be: Zaou, Karti, Mara, Gog. So Zaou crits, Karti casts Offensive Cry on the 1/2 press turn, Thrust with Mara and Gog can either EQ or Muscle Punch, great for AG2 boss rush (Use Xana for Speed and the 1 MP cost reduction in AG2). Credit: BuffMaister [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eDTUxjee1Y BuffMaister's AG2 Boss Rush video].
 
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* Asura Lord also works great for Kiwami thanks to Slaughter All's obscene damage and Endless War for more Crit% increase for Zaou.
 
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* Charge Yoshi/Sieg/Gen Masa for kiwami Charge cheese.
 
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* Herokado for the extra turn and buff control, either replace 1 damage dealer or Karti (Use kangaroo boxer and reset for Position Hack if not fast enough).
 
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* Unconventional yet surprisingly useful is Norn (even better with P2!) her ability to undo any Auto Debuffs and cast Luster Candy boosting your offense and accuracy as well as additional survivability. She is purely a support role, give her War Cry/Acid Breath and Speedster. she can also provide sustain for the party with discounted Mediarahan alongside her decently high MAtk.
 
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* Shiva A for unblockable sweeping damage. But he has to go first to not waste the auto rebellion from Ishvara, so you can build him similar to base Shiva above but replace War with Spell/Divine brands with MAtk% and Magic mitama.
 
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* Guts/Huang Di for more powerful sweeping Phys damage.
 
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* Seth/Guan Yu/Susano-o A/Berserker Guts/Ose Hallel/Ardha/Kali for insane ST phys to nuke down bosses. Special mention to OseH for his Fast Debilitate on boost level 2 with his passive, make sure he's first to not waste his innate auto rebellion. Ardha can provide some sustain with his heals.
 
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* Cu Chulainn A/Thor A/Belial for some physical elemental damage if you wanna spice things up.
 
  
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== My personal take on demons I want to see in Dx2 ==
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== Tier List ==
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They will all be 5★ just for convenience sake lol.
 
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(This is just for fun and not to be taken seriously, and no this is not a leak either)
 
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* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/o7hcyn/demon_prediction_1/ Cerberus A]
 
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* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/ocpzcr/demon_prediction_2/ Lucifroz]
 
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* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/ohclj7/demon_prediction_3/ Lugh]
 
  
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^ I will add more every week.
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* I'm taking the demon's viablity into account based of EVERYTHING the game has to offer (PVE, PVP, Democ, etc.). Demons are ranked with all their panels + optimal brands taken into account.
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* Actual tiers are arranged in Alphabetical order. The rest are arranged however.
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* This is just a personal opinion don't attack me thx :)
  
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== Tier List ==
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===Ranking explanations===
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* SSS: Excels in a large majority of the game. Little to no flaws. Defines each gamemode's meta. The game revolves around them.
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* SS: A must have for any player. Can do extremely well in most gamemodes. Broken.
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* S: Great staple demons. No reason to not use them in at least 1 or 2 gamemodes.
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* A: Strong demons. Powerful and useful. Has a few minor weaknesses and can be outclassed by other demons but still great nonetheless.
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* B: Above average demons. Good but there are better options. Provide certain niches.
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* C: Average. Provide very few niches, mainly and usually ONLY Democ. Most fusuables go here sadge.
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* D: Below Average. Why even bother...
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* F: Bad. Better off as a skill transfer, karma or fusion fodder. Might as well be 3 star.
  
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===Overall demon tier list===
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Mara}}{{DemonIconBeta|Jack Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|Pyro Jack}}{{DemonIconBeta|Jack the Ripper}}{{DemonIconBeta|Frost Ace}}{{DemonIconBeta|Demonee-Ho}}{{DemonIconBeta|Black Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|King Frost}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mothman}}{{DemonIconBeta|Fafnir}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Adramelech}}{{DemonIconBeta|Elohim}}{{DemonIconBeta|Maria}}{{DemonIconBeta|Nyarlathotep}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vishnu A}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Arioch}}{{DemonIconBeta|Asura Lord}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cerberus A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cthulhu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Demiurge}}{{DemonIconBeta|Fariedone}}{{DemonIconBeta|Koga Saburo}}
 
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{{DemonIconBeta|Alice}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ardha}}{{DemonIconBeta|Asura Lord}}{{DemonIconBeta|Baal}}{{DemonIconBeta|Clotho}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cu Chulainn A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Demiurge}}{{DemonIconBeta|Guan Yu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Guts}}{{DemonIconBeta|Hecate}}{{DemonIconBeta|Hresvelgr}}{{DemonIconBeta|Kartikeya}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lilith A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mahamayuri}}{{DemonIconBeta|Masakado}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mother Harlot}}{{DemonIconBeta|Motoko Kusanagi}}{{DemonIconBeta|Nergal}}{{DemonIconBeta|Orcus}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ose Hallel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Quetzalcoatl A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Sraosha}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vairocana}}
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{{DemonIconBeta|Alice A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Anahita}}{{DemonIconBeta|Anat}}{{DemonIconBeta|Angra Mainyu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ardha}}{{DemonIconBeta|Atavaka}}{{PanelDemonIconBeta|3CAtropos}}{{DemonIconBeta|Baal}}{{DemonIconBeta|Beelzebub (Human)}}{{DemonIconBeta|Berserker Guts}}{{DemonIconBeta|Clotho}}{{DemonIconBeta|Cu Chulainn A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Daisoujou}}{{DemonIconBeta|Echidna}}{{DemonIconBeta|Erlkonig}}{{DemonIconBeta|Flauros Hallel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Futsunushi}}{{DemonIconBeta|Guan Yu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Guts}}{{DemonIconBeta|Hecate}}{{DemonIconBeta|Heimdall}}{{DemonIconBeta|Hresvelgr}}{{DemonIconBeta|Kartikeya}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lachesis}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lanling Wang}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ladon}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lilith A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Lucifer}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mada}}{{DemonIconBeta|Mahamayuri}}{{DemonIconBeta|Masakado}}{{DemonIconBeta|Meliodas}}{{DemonIconBeta|Orcus}}{{DemonIconBeta|Ose Hallel}}{{DemonIconBeta|Quetzalcoatl A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Shiva A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Sraosha}}{{DemonIconBeta|Surt A}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vairocana}}{{DemonIconBeta|Vritra}}{{DemonIconBeta|Xi Wangmu}}{{DemonIconBeta|Yoshitsune}}{{DemonIconBeta|Zaou-Gongen}}
 
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== PVP Team Tier List ==
 
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My own opinion of the pvp teams. Arranged in alphabetical order. (Will update when neccessary)
 
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* S-tier: Commonly seen/used in the ladder. Super consistent and can win most fights. Defines the current meta.
 
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* A-tier: Is used quite often. Strong and can hold its own against most teams. Loses to certain team styles
 
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* B-tier: Frequent usage. Strong niche and can beat some teams but cannot handle 1 or 2 of the popular team builds OR specifically built to beat a popular team and does it consistently. Rarely used for defense.
 
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* C-tier: Rarely seen/used. Gimmick teams that can succeed. Mostly used for revenge counter picks. Not used for random/targetted fights. Bad for defense.
 
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* D-tier: Low usage. Cannot beat the popular/top teams. Poor gimmick teams.
 
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S-tier:
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Masakado A}}Herokado-Turn 1 (Key demons: Herokado, Angra Mainyu)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Atavaka}}Repel (Key Demons: Atavaka, Angra Mainyu, SurtA/Vairocana, Skull Knight)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Atropos}}Sisters (Key Demons: Atropos, Lachesis, Clotho, SurtA, Xi Wangmu)
 
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A-tier:
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Angra Mainyu}}Angra Mainyu ailments (Key demons: Angra Mainyu)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Demiurge}}Demiurge anti-pierce (Key demons: Demiurge, Angra Mainyu, Ardha, SurtA)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Masakado}}Double IS (Key demons: Atavaka, SurtA, Masakado. Sometimes a combo with Repel)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Uriel}}Archangels (Key demons: Uriel, Gabriel, Sraosha)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Asherah}}Midrange
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Pale Rider}}Non-Angra Ailments (Key demons: Motoko, Pale Rider)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Rama}}Rama Drain (Key demons: Rama, Ardha or any demon(s) that can drain elec and/or fire)
 
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*{{DemonIconBeta|Tzitzimitl}}Tzitzimitl Anti-sisters (Key Demons: Purple Tzitzimitl, Lv1 Tlaltecuhtli, Lv1 Clear Surt, Lv1 Purple Zhong Kui)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Alice A}}Ulice (Key demons: Ulice, Nebiros or any consistent curse applier)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Erlkonig}}Erlkonig Stall (Key demons: Erlkonig)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Parvati}}Parvati anti-IS (Key demons: Parvati)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Zaou-Gongen}}Hell Gongen (Key demons: P3 Zaou-Gongen, Hell Biker)
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Alice}}Mortal (Key demons: Alice, Masakado)
 
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===My reasons for the rankings (WIP)===
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Masakado A}}Herokado Turn-1: The definition of speed and/or power. Herokado's Extra Press turn means more opportunities for the team to fuck stuff up. Extremely explosive damage potential when high damage dealers such as ShivA, Anat, BGuts, etc. are used. With good brands and proper buff control, they can decimate all, if not most teams they face. Hyper fast variants with 3 speedsters hard counter T1 teams planning to do randoms, either a sweeper (commonly Anat) or Angra is used. Angra made their Ulice and sisters matchup a lot more manageable, plus his 16 Scourges provide tons of chip damage before sweepers get to nuke the enemy team, ensuring kills (Although Daisoujou can cast mute on any enemy inflicted with charm from Scourges, so they'll have to be careful). Hres and Srao allow them to extend their attacks past their press turns meaning a team kill will happen before any powwerful enemy passive can activate. (e.g. Peach of immortality, or Twilight inferno). Anti-Midrange variants can cuck any anti-pierce variants with powerful ST nukers to kill Atav/Demi so that their teammates can fire off their attacks freely. However, if they aren't able to kill turn 1, they're fragility shows and will most likely lose. When built correctly and with good brands they can beat most teams they face.
 
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* {{DemonIconBeta|Atropos}}Sisters: HI SISTERS! The epitome of cancer. Their insane synergy of longevity, buff control, ailments and passive damage mean they'll give any teams that can't team kill T1 or lack revive seals one helluva hard time. Xi Wangmu gives them more buff control, even more revives and is super tanky or dodges like a mutherfucker. Their panels give them teamwide ailment immunity (to all femme/lady demons) so shutting down their passives is practically impossible. SurtA gave them more damage potential meaning they arent gonna be mostly passive and can punish teams who used to exploit their inability to kill immediately, plus his passive blows up the enemy team upon death, easing their T1 matchup even more. Unfortunately for the sisters, innovative players have come up with plenty of direct counters and the intoduction of Angra and Teal Flauros Hallel allowed Repel teams to halve Atropos' damage output w/o the use of sub-optimal repel elec demons such as Aniel and Gabriel, as well FlaurosH being a source of magic revive seal meaning dodge build are useless. Giving rise to the current Repel team build. In short, Sisters synergize extremely well and have access to demons that further their longevity or cover up their passivity, requiring obsecenely high damage and/or the highly coveted revive seal to have even have a fighting chance.
 
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TL;DR Angra is broken lmao
 

Latest revision as of 08:22, 2 September 2022

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Add Satan pls. F2P cuz I hate myself. Creator of the Dx2 Demon Prediction Series on the Dx2 Subreddit. Master of writing too damn much. Currently writing the PVE/PVP demon builds (currently only one or the other for most demons with a few exceptions).

About

  • Discord: Sir_Suffers#1870
  • Faction: Beyonders
  • Friend Code: NKY9E9HV
  • PVE achievements: Completed Story, Aura Gate 1&2, Hell's Park and Alt World. Reached Floor 60 of Tokyo Abyss. Defeated Celestial Feng Huang, Baihu, Gui Xian and Long.
  • Kiwamis Defeated: Seth, Lakshmi, Cu Chulainn, Siegfried, Black Frost, Michael, Rama, Garuda, Mot, Orcus, Gogmagog, Izanami, Alice, Susano-o, Mother Harlot, Surt, Vasuki, Asherah, Zaou-Gongen, Lilith, Black Rider, Asura, Samael, Kartikeya, Alilat, Sraosha, Tzitzimitl, Erlkonig, Black Maria, Murmur, Marici.
  • Highest PVP Rank: M3 (4203)
  • Favorite Teams so far: Herokado T1.
  • Favorite demon in Dx2: Mara (Yes i like the dick. I know, how funny and original...)
  • Favorite demon of all time: Satan (prefarably the Kaneko version)
  • Favorite character in Dx2: Carbon Black
  • Favorite SMT character of all time: Raidou or Aleph (idk cant decide, personality wise: Raidou, lore wise: Aleph)
  • Favorite SMT Games (Not in order): Strange Journey (Base), Soul Hackers, Devil Survivor Overclocked, Digital Devil Saga 1&2 and Persona 2 Innocent Sin
  • SMT/Megaten Games I'm planning to play/havent played: Megami Tensei 1&2, Devil Children/Demi-kids, Devil Summoner, Kyuyaku Megami Tensei, Majin Tensei 1&2.
  • SMT/Megaten games i dont plan to play: SMT NINE, Persona Q1&2, Persona 3 dancing (Played P5 dancing and realised P3 was gonna be the same lmao), Ronde, IMAGINE (MMOs are not my thing) and Last Bible series.
  • Favorite Megaten soundtracks (Not in order): SMT V, SMT IV/A, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Devil Survivor, Strange Journey, SMT if, Soul Hackers, Persona 2, and Persona 5.
  • Enjoys doing hard/dumb megaten challenge runs (low level, no fusion, no items, no buffs/debuffs, etc.) cuz I hate myself and I am pushing the boundaries of my sanity.
  • Avid TCG player.
  • Hates Twitter.

Current PVP Team(s)

Heaven, Hell, Earth and the Cosmos

Dx2: Xana, BS: 55900
ArchPurple.png Elohim.jpg Elohim
Skills
Fire Survivor
Fire Amp
Brands
Spell + Speed
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Masakado A.jpg Masakado A
Skills
Speedster
Auto-Taruka
Brands
Divine & Lead
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Astaroth.jpg Astaroth
Skills
Speedster
Wicked Strike
Brands
War + Speed
Requirements
P3
ArchPurple.png Nyarlathotep.jpg Nyarlathotep
Skills
Force Amp
Force Enhancement
Brands
Spell + Speed
Requirements
-

Battle Tower team

Unlikely Allies

BS: 46600
McAg.png MaleMC.png Ag Style
Demonite
Fast x3
SwordIcon.png
Huang Di.jpg
ShieldIcon.png
Cu Chulainn.jpg
ArchPurple.png Masakado A.jpg Masakado A
Skills
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Speedster
Brands
Divine & Lead
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Astaroth.jpg Astaroth
Skills
Speedster
Wicked Strike
Brands
War & Speed
Requirements
P1
ArchPurple.png Angra Mainyu.jpg Angra Mainyu
Skills
Speedster
Enduring Soul +
Brands
Divines & Speed
Requirements
P2
  • Herokado has blank slot for any attacking skill to complete the sidequests if any. If non, I run Auto-Taruka.
  • Other Armament(s) used: Samael Sword + Ixtab Shield

Tier List

  • I'm taking the demon's viablity into account based of EVERYTHING the game has to offer (PVE, PVP, Democ, etc.). Demons are ranked with all their panels + optimal brands taken into account.
  • Actual tiers are arranged in Alphabetical order. The rest are arranged however.
  • This is just a personal opinion don't attack me thx :)

Ranking explanations

  • SSS: Excels in a large majority of the game. Little to no flaws. Defines each gamemode's meta. The game revolves around them.
  • SS: A must have for any player. Can do extremely well in most gamemodes. Broken.
  • S: Great staple demons. No reason to not use them in at least 1 or 2 gamemodes.
  • A: Strong demons. Powerful and useful. Has a few minor weaknesses and can be outclassed by other demons but still great nonetheless.
  • B: Above average demons. Good but there are better options. Provide certain niches.
  • C: Average. Provide very few niches, mainly and usually ONLY Democ. Most fusuables go here sadge.
  • D: Below Average. Why even bother...
  • F: Bad. Better off as a skill transfer, karma or fusion fodder. Might as well be 3 star.

Overall demon tier list

My tier list
Score Demons
meme

Mara.jpgJack Frost.jpgPyro Jack.jpgJack the Ripper.jpgFrost Ace.jpgDemonee-Ho.jpgBlack Frost.jpgKing Frost.jpgMothman.jpgFafnir.jpg

SSS

Astaroth.jpgBeelzebub☆.jpgMasakado A.jpg

SS

Adramelech.jpgElohim.jpgMaria.jpgNyarlathotep.jpgVishnu A.jpg

S

Arioch.jpgAsura Lord.jpgCerberus A.jpgCthulhu.jpgDemiurge.jpgFariedone.jpgKoga Saburo.jpg

A

Alice A.jpgAnahita.jpgAnat.jpgAngra Mainyu.jpgArdha.jpgAtavaka.jpg3CAtropos.jpgBaal.jpgBeelzebub (Human).jpgBerserker Guts.jpgClotho.jpgCu Chulainn A.jpgDaisoujou.jpgEchidna.jpgErlkonig.jpgFlauros Hallel.jpgFutsunushi.jpgGuan Yu.jpgGuts.jpgHecate.jpgHeimdall.jpgHresvelgr.jpgKartikeya.jpgLachesis.jpgLanling Wang.jpgLadon.jpgLilith A.jpgLucifer.jpgMada.jpgMahamayuri.jpgMasakado.jpgMeliodas.jpgOrcus.jpgOse Hallel.jpgQuetzalcoatl A.jpgShiva A.jpgSraosha.jpgSurt A.jpgVairocana.jpgVritra.jpgXi Wangmu.jpgYoshitsune.jpgZaou-Gongen.jpg

B

Alice.jpgAlilat.jpgAniel.jpgAsherah.jpgAsura.jpgBan.jpgBarong.jpgBlack Rider.jpgDavid.jpgGabriel.jpgGaruda.jpgGaruda A.jpgGogmagog.jpgHuang Long.jpgIndrajit.jpgKali.jpgLakshmi A.jpgLucifuge.jpgMahakala.jpgMara.jpgMaster Therion.jpgMot.jpgMother Harlot.jpgMotoko Kusanagi.jpgNebiros.jpgNergal.jpgPale Rider.jpgPales.jpgRama.jpgRaphael.jpgRed Rider.jpgSamael.jpgSamyaza.jpgSeth.jpgShiva.jpgSiegfried.jpgSkull Knight.jpgSusano-o A.jpgTezcatlipoca.jpgThor A.jpgTokisada.jpgUriel.jpgVishnu.jpg

C

Amaterasu.jpgAzazel.jpgBatou.jpgBelial.jpgBlack Frost.jpgCernunnos.jpgCu Chulainn.jpgCybele.jpgDante☆.jpgDemonee-Ho.jpgFlauros.jpgFrost Ace.jpgGemori.jpgGriffith.jpgHuang Di.jpgIshtar.jpgIxtab.jpgIzanami.jpgLilith.jpgMarici.jpgMastema.jpgMaya.jpgMetatron.jpgMichael.jpgMurmur.jpgNero☆.jpgNorn.jpgSchierke.jpgSeraph.jpgSurt.jpgSusano-o.jpgThor.jpgTzitzimitl.jpgVasuki.jpgV☆.jpgYama.jpgZodd.jpg

D

Ananta.jpgBayonetta☆.jpgBlack Maria.jpgJeanne☆.jpgLakshmi.jpgMozgus.jpgQuetzalcoatl.jpgTrumpeter.jpg

F

Elizabeth.jpgFafnir.jpg

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