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Add Satan pls. F2P cuz I hate myself. Creator of the Dx2 Demon Prediction Series on the Dx2 Subreddit. Master of writing too damn much. Currently writing the PVE/PVP demon builds (currently only one or the other for most demons with a few exceptions).

About

  • Discord: Sir_Suffers#1870
  • Faction: Beyonders
  • Friend Code: NKY9E9HV
  • PVE achievements: Completed Story, Aura Gate 1&2, Hell's Park and Alt World. Reached Floor 60 of Tokyo Abyss. Defeated Celestial Feng Huang, Baihu and Long.
  • Kiwamis Defeated: Seth, Lakshmi, Cu Chulainn, Siegfried, Black Frost, Michael, Rama, Garuda, Mot, Orcus, Gogmagog, Izanami, Alice, Susano-o, Mother Harlot, Surt, Vasuki, Asherah, Zaou-Gongen, Lilith, Black Rider, Samael, Kartikeya, Alilat, Sraosha, Tzitzimitl, Erlkonig.
  • Highest PVP Rank: D3 (4131)
  • Favorite Teams so far: Herokado T1 (PVP), Hell Gongen (PVE, although more Gongen and no Hell lol)
  • Favorite demon in Dx2: Mara (Yes i like the dick. I know, how funny and original...)
  • Favorite demon of all time: Satan (prefarably the Kaneko version)
  • Favorite character in Dx2: Carbon Black
  • Favorite SMT character of all time: Raidou or Aleph (idk cant decide, personality wise: Raidou, lore wise: Aleph)
  • Favorite SMT Games (Not in order): SMT V, Strange Journey (Base), Soul Hackers, Devil Survivor Overclocked, Digital Devil Saga 1&2 and Persona 2 Innocent Sin
  • SMT/Megaten Games I'm planning to play/havent played: Megami Tensei 1&2, Devil Children/Demi-kids, Devil Summoner, Kyuyaku Megami Tensei, Majin Tensei 1&2, and Jack Bros (I know im a disgrace of a MegaTen fan lol)
  • SMT/Megaten games i dont plan to play: SMT NINE, Persona Q1&2, Persona 3 dancing (Played P5 dancing and realised P3 was gonna be the same lmao), Ronde, IMAGINE (MMOs are not my thing) and Last Bible series.
  • Favorite Megaten soundtracks (Not in order): SMT V, SMT IV/A, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Devil Survivor, Strange Journey, SMT if, Soul Hackers, Persona 2, and Persona 5.
  • Enjoys doing hard/dumb megaten challenge runs (low level, no fusion, no items, no buffs/debuffs, etc.) cuz I hate myself and I am pushing the boundaries of my sanity.
  • Avid TCG player.
  • Hates Twitter.

Current PVP Team(s)

The Holy Crusade

Dx2: Meat Balloon, BS: 25825
ArchPurple.png Skull Knight.jpg Skull Knight
Skills
Enduring Soul +
Auto-Rebellion
Brands
War & Lead
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Masakado A.jpg Masakado A
Skills
Speedster
Auto-Taruka
Brands
Divine & Speed
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Quetzalcoatl A.jpg Quetzalcoatl A
Skills
Agilao L
Fire Enhancement
Brands
Divine & Guard
Requirements
P1+2
ArchYellow.png Maria.jpg Maria
Skills
Epitome of Fortitude
Life Surge
Brands
Life & Heal
Requirements
-

Eternal Plague

Dx2: Xana, BS: 35300
ArchPurple.png Masakado A.jpg Masakado A
Skills
Speedster
Auto-Taruka
Brands
Divine & Speed
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Skull Knight.jpg Skull Knight
Skills
Enduring Soul +
Auto-Rebellion
Brands
War & Lead
Requirements
P1+2
ArchTeal.png Nergal.jpg Nergal
Skills
Epitome of Madness
Insanity
Brands
Sick & Speed
Requirements
P3
ArchPurple.png Angra Mainyu.jpg Angra Mainyu
Skills
Speedster
Enduring Soul +
Brands
Divine & Speed
Requirements
P2

Battle Tower team

Virus Swordsmen

BS: 33000
McAg.png MaleMC.png Ag Style
Demonite
Fast x3
SwordIcon.png
Huang Di.jpg
ShieldIcon.png
Cu Chulainn.jpg
ArchPurple.png Masakado A.jpg Masakado A
Skills
-
Speedster
Brands
Divine & Speed
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Skull Knight.jpg Skull Knight
Skills
Enduring Soul +
Auto-Rebellion
Brands
War & Lead
Requirements
P1+2
ArchPurple.png Angra Mainyu.jpg Angra Mainyu
Skills
Speedster
Enduring Soul +
Brands
Divines & Speed
Requirements
P2
  • Herokado has blank slot for any attacking skill to complete the sidequests if any. If non, I run Auto-Taruka.
  • Other Armament(s) used: Samael Sword + Ixtab Shield

Lightspeed Flash

BS: 56175
McAg.png MaleMC.png Ag Style
Demonite
Fast x3
SwordIcon.png
Huang Di.jpg
ShieldIcon.png
Cu Chulainn.jpg
ArchClear.png Kartikeya.jpg Kartikeya
Skills
Barrier Break
Epitome of Swiftness
Brands
Speed x2
Requirements
P2
ArchPurple.png Hresvelgr.jpg Hresvelgr
Skills
-
Speedster
Brands
Speed x2
Requirements
P3
ArchPurple.png Angra Mainyu.jpg Angra Mainyu
Skills
Speedster
Enduring Soul +
Brands
Divines & Speed
Requirements
P2
  • Hres has blank slot for any attacking skill to complete the sidequests if any. If non, I run Ice Amp.

Currently My Favorite PVE Team

Hell Raising Destructive Fury
ArchRed.png Shiva.jpg Shiva
Skills
Phys Boost
Phys Amp
Brands
War & Lead
Requirements
P3, +20 AGI Mitama
ArchClear.png Kartikeya.jpg Kartikeya
Skills
Solar Downfall
Offensive Cry
Brands
Speed x2
Requirements
P2, +20 AGI Mitama
ArchRed.png Zaou-Gongen.jpg Zaou-Gongen
Skills
Epitome of Carnage
Savage Glee
Brands
War & Lead
Requirements
P3, +20 AGI Mitama
ArchPurple.png Mara.jpg Mara
Skills
Butcher
Phys Amp
Brands
War & Destruct x1
Requirements
P3, +7 AGI Mitama

Team Breakdown

  • Mainly for boss fights like Kiwamis. Super expensive but purely F2P as they are all fusuable and skills can be obtained from genome banners.
  • Credit to BuffMaister: BuffMaister's Kiwami Boss Rush
  • Carbon Black/Xana/Kangaroo Boxer as Dx2. Carbon Black for crit damage boost and the potential Tarukaja+Sukukaja, Sukukaja+Sukunda and Rakunda (5 turns). Xana gives extra speed and crit chance. Kangaroo Boxer for both damage and EV/AC and Position Hack for super fast bosses. Either one works fine, but I tend to stick with Carbon Black.
  • 7 AGI mitama on Mara ensures he speed ties with Zaou so I can adjust who goes first based on the position in the team selection. Generally team order goes Shiva, Karti, Zaou then Mara. Shiva allows me pass into karti so he can cast Offensive Cry on a 1/2 press turn. Zaou goes 3rd to crit (very likely with EOC, Savage Glee, Skanda from Karti and Xana's passive if I use her) and starts the AOE crit loop then P3 mara can thrust and cast Charge.
  • After the initial set up, Shiva crits, Karti either Mortal Jihads or Offensive Cry (I use support AI so he'll cast it on a new wave if on Auto), Zaou crits gives AOE crits, Mara then can blow his load with a charge+crit Titanomachia to sweep or thrust again to melt HP bars (especially so on the boss if the adds are dead). If the boss doesnt die, Shiva can use God's Hand to crush the boss.

Other Options

  • Auto-Rebellion on Zaou makes this a lot more consistent. Tranfer either Great Aim so he can hit or Phys Amp/Boost if you want more damage.
  • Butcher on Shiva if you want more Vorpal Blade damage, I use Phys Boost for blanket phys damage boost for both Vorpal and God's Hand. If so, I suggest Teal to cover his Ice weakness.
  • Red Gogmagog can replace Shiva, give him double Guard with as much Phys Def% as possible, transfer Phys Amp and Boost. New turn order should be: Zaou, Karti, Mara, Gog. So Zaou crits, Karti casts Offensive Cry on the 1/2 press turn, Thrust with Mara and Gog can either EQ or Muscle Punch, great for AG2 boss rush (Use Xana for Speed and the 1 MP cost reduction in AG2). Credit: BuffMaister BuffMaister's AG2 Boss Rush video.
  • Asura Lord also works great for Kiwami thanks to Slaughter All's obscene damage and Endless War for more Crit% increase for Zaou.
  • Charge Yoshi/Sieg/Gen Masa for kiwami Charge cheese.
  • Herokado for the extra turn and buff control, either replace 1 damage dealer or Karti (Use kangaroo boxer and reset for Position Hack if not fast enough).
  • Unconventional yet surprisingly useful is Norn (even better with P2!) her ability to undo any Auto Debuffs and cast Luster Candy boosting your offense and accuracy as well as additional survivability. She is purely a support role, give her War Cry/Acid Breath and Speedster. she can also provide sustain for the party with discounted Mediarahan alongside her decently high MAtk.
  • Shiva A for unblockable sweeping damage. But he has to go first to not waste the auto rebellion from Ishvara, so you can build him similar to base Shiva above but replace War with Spell/Divine brands with MAtk% and Magic mitama.
  • Guts/Huang Di for more powerful sweeping Phys damage.
  • Seth/Guan Yu/Susano-o A/Berserker Guts/Ose Hallel/Ardha/Kali for insane ST phys to nuke down bosses. Special mention to OseH for his Fast Debilitate on boost level 2 with his passive, make sure he's first to not waste his innate auto rebellion. Ardha can provide some sustain with his heals.
  • Cu Chulainn A/Thor A/Belial for some physical elemental damage if you wanna spice things up.

The Dx2 Demon Prediction Series

There are countless number of demons in the Megaten franchise, but what would happen if they were to appear in Shin Megami Tensei Dx2 Liberation? Each new demon added have been given their own identity with their own unique skills and battle abilities, alongside high quality 3D models, breathing new life to them once again. In this series, I'll be making predictions on how demons not in Dx2 would be made and function, each one taking inspiriation from their mythology and appearances in other titles. This is the Demon Prediction Series.

They will all be 5★ just for convenience sake lol. (This is just for fun and not to be taken seriously, and no this is not a leak either)

I will add more every week unless I'm on hiatus (Usually only when a season ends).

Season 1 (The Beginning)

Season 2 (Community Support)

Redux

Basically re-doing or changing old entries when an actual version of the demon is released. Old entries will still be up tho.

Tier List

  • I'm taking the demon's viablity into account based of EVERYTHING the game has to offer (PVE, PVP, Democ, etc.). Demons are ranked with all their panels + optimal brands taken into account.
  • Actual tiers are arranged in Alphabetical order. The rest are arranged however.
  • This is just a personal opinion don't attack me thx :)

Ranking explanations

  • SSS: Excels in a large majority of the game. Little to no flaws. Defines each gamemode's meta. The game revolves around them.
  • SS: A must have for any player. Can do extremely well in most gamemodes. Broken.
  • S: Great staple demons. No reason to not use them in at least 1 or 2 gamemodes.
  • A: Strong demons. Powerful and useful. Has a few minor weaknesses and can be outclassed by other demons but still great nonetheless.
  • B: Above average demons. Good but there are better options. Provide certain niches.
  • C: Average. Provide very few niches. Most fusuables go here sadge.
  • D: Below Average. Why even bother...
  • F: Bad. Better off as a skill transfer, karma or fusion fodder. Might as well be 3 star.

Overall demon tier list

My tier list
Score Demons
meme

Mara.jpgJack Frost.jpgPyro Jack.jpgJack the Ripper.jpgFrost Ace.jpgDemonee-Ho.jpgBlack Frost.jpgKing Frost.jpgMothman.jpgFafnir.jpg

SSS

Beelzebub☆.jpgMasakado A.jpg

SS

Adramelech.jpgAstaroth.jpgKoga Saburo.jpg

S

Alice A.jpgAnat.jpgAngra Mainyu.jpgAsura Lord.jpgAtavaka.jpgDaisoujou.jpgDemiurge.jpgEchidna.jpgFlauros Hallel.jpgLilith A.jpgMaria.jpgMasakado.jpgOse Hallel.jpgShiva A.jpgSraosha.jpgXi Wangmu.jpg

A

Ardha.jpg3CAtropos.jpgBaal.jpgBeelzebub (Human).jpgBerserker Guts.jpgClotho.jpgCu Chulainn A.jpgErlkonig.jpgFutsunushi.jpgGuan Yu.jpgGuts.jpgHecate.jpgHresvelgr.jpgKartikeya.jpgLachesis.jpgLucifer.jpgMahamayuri.jpgOrcus.jpgQuetzalcoatl A.jpgSkull Knight.jpgSurt A.jpgVairocana.jpgYoshitsune.jpgZaou-Gongen.jpg

B

Alice.jpgAlilat.jpgAniel.jpgAsherah.jpgAsura.jpgBarong.jpgBlack Rider.jpgDavid.jpgGabriel.jpgGaruda.jpgGaruda A.jpgGogmagog.jpgHuang Long.jpgIndrajit.jpgKali.jpgLakshmi A.jpgLucifuge.jpgMahakala.jpgMara.jpgMaster Therion.jpgMot.jpgMother Harlot.jpgMotoko Kusanagi.jpgNebiros.jpgNergal.jpgPale Rider.jpgPales.jpgRama.jpgRaphael.jpgRed Rider.jpgSamael.jpgSeth.jpgShiva.jpgSiegfried.jpgSusano-o A.jpgThor A.jpgTokisada.jpgUriel.jpgVishnu.jpg

C

Amaterasu.jpgAzazel.jpgBatou.jpgBelial.jpgBlack Frost.jpgCernunnos.jpgCu Chulainn.jpgCybele.jpgDante☆.jpgDemonee-Ho.jpgFlauros.jpgFrost Ace.jpgGemori.jpgGriffith.jpgHuang Di.jpgIshtar.jpgIxtab.jpgIzanami.jpgLilith.jpgMarici.jpgMastema.jpgMaya.jpgMetatron.jpgMichael.jpgMurmur.jpgNero☆.jpgNorn.jpgSchierke.jpgSeraph.jpgSurt.jpgSusano-o.jpgThor.jpgTzitzimitl.jpgVasuki.jpgV☆.jpgYama.jpgZodd.jpg

D

Ananta.jpgBayonetta☆.jpgBlack Maria.jpgJeanne☆.jpgLakshmi.jpgMozgus.jpgQuetzalcoatl.jpgTrumpeter.jpg

F

Fafnir.jpg

I swear to YHVH, ban/nerf Ubeelze. F*** the fly.