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Revision as of 11:55, 4 October 2024
Mechanics
Battle Speed is a gameplay mechanic, which determines which party gets to act first in a battle. Since going first or second significantly affects your strategy in all game modes, you should always keep in mind Battle Speed of your team. This makes it a significant component of teambuilding in most content.
- Note: Kangaroo Boxer's skill "Position Hack" has a 20% chance to let your party to go first, if they have lower speed.
A demon's Battle Speed does not directly influence turn order, since turn order is only dependent on Agility, Lead brands, and Trail brands.
Formula
INDIVIDUAL DEMON SPEED = FLOOR100[DEMON BASE SPEED * (1 + SPEED INCREASE TOTAL)] PARTY SPEED = DEMON SPEED SUM / PARTY COUNT
This basic formula is applied for every single type of party.
- FLOOR100 = Reduces a number to the next lowest number divisible by 100, i.e. FLOOR100[18260]=18200, FLOOR[18300]=18300
- DEMON BASE SPEED = Multiply a demons Agility stat by 100
- SPEED INCREASE TOTAL = Sum up each %-speed change of the demon (Skill transfers like Speedster or Epitome of Endurance, Speed-Brand set bonus, Panels, etc.) ((Basic math reminder: 1%=0.01))
- DEMON SPEED SUM = Sum of each party members INDIVIDUAL DEMON SPEED
- PARTY COUNT = Number of demons in party
Calculation Example
This example party will assume each demon is awakened and at level 50 for the calculation.
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- Surt: (92(Agility) * 100) * (1 + (-0.2(Epitome of Endurance))) = 9200 * 0.8 = 7360 -> 7300(FLOOR100)
- Mokoi: (157(Agility) * 100) * (1 + (-0.2(Epitome of Endurance))) = 15700 * 0.8 = 12560 -> 12500(FLOOR100)
- Kartikeya: (256(Agility) * 100) * (1 + (0.5(Speedster))) = 25600 * 1.5 = 38400
- Masakado: (118(Agility) * 100) * (1 + (0.5(Speedster) + 0.25(Speed Brand Set) + 0.25(Speed Brand Set))) = 11800 * 2 = 23600
- Total: (7360(Surt) + 12560(Mokoi) + 38400(Kartikeya) + 23600(Masakado)) / 4(Number of party members) = 20.450
This example also illustrates that %-based effects on battle speed are more effective on high Agility demons compared to low Agility demons, both for increasing effects like Speedster and for decreasing effects like Epitome of Endurance.
Quick Reference
This section aims to give a quick overview of things that can affect Battle Speed and a rough estimate of how much these change a full team's (four party members) battle speed. this is NOT an exact calculation and should only serve to give an inkling how much things like Speedster transfers increase a teams speed. It is always recommended to do exact calculations before making major decisions when building your demons.
Usually most of these increases scale linearly so a 5 Agi increase for a demon with 50%-Speed increase is the same as 5 times the increase a demon with 10%-Speed increase would get, which is why there will not be an exhaustive list here.
Reference Tables
ALL OF THE LISTED NUMBERS ASSUME 4 PARTY MEMBERS
Full Party Battle Speed Change | |||||
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Effect | %-Change | High Agility Demons (250-300) | High-Mid Agility Demons (160-200) | Low-Mid Agility Demons (120-160) | Low Agility Demons (80-120) |
Speedster | 50 | 3000-3750 | 2000-2500 | 1500-2000 | 1000-1500 |
Epitome of Swiftness & Speed Brand Set |
25 | 1500-1800 | 1000-1250 | 750-1000 | 500-750 |
Brand Stats | 1-20 | 100-1500 | 100-1000 | 100-800 | 100-600 |
Spirit Panels | 10/20/30 | 750/1500/2250 | 500/1000/1500 | 400/800/1200 | 300/600/900 |
Epitome of Endurance | -20 | -1200-1500 | -1000-1250 | -750-1000 | -500-750 |
Full Party Battle Speed Increase | |||||
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Agi-Increase | +0%-Speed | +10%-Speed | |||
5 | 125 | 125 | |||
10 | 250 | 275 |
Ag Style | Vit Style | Other Styles | |
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Fast Demonite | +450 | +325 | +375 |
Slow Demonite | -450 | -325 | -375 |
Team Builder
If manual calculation is too much effort you can use the Team Builder, which allows you to mock up teams quickly with a graphical interface and gives accurate Battle Speed information.
Speed increasers
Demon Skills that increase Speed
Type | Name | MP Cost | Target | Boost | Skill Points | Exclusive? |
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Passive | Speedster | Passive | Self | 50% | 10 | - |
Passive | Epitome of Swiftness | Passive | Self | 25% | 14 | - |
Passive | Phys Accele | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Fire Accele | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Ice Accele | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Elec Accele | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Force Accele | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Light Accele | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Dark Accele | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Almighty Accele | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Aqua Grace | Passive | Self | 20% | - | Anahita |
Passive | Ascended General | Passive | Self | 30% | - | Masakado B |
Passive | Ashihara no Nakatsukuni's Might | Passive | Self | 20% | - | Sukuna-Hikona A |
Passive | Berserker Armor | Passive | Self | 30% | - | Berserker Guts |
Passive | Brilliant Wings | Passive | Self | 75% | - | Garuda A |
Passive | Chaos Seeker | Passive | Self | 50% | - | Baphomet A |
Passive | Corrosion's Wisdom | Passive | Self | 30% | 1 | Thoth |
Passive | Demonized Form | Passive | Self | 50% | - | Unit 01 Dx2 Type |
Passive | Everything Evil | Passive | Self | 20% | - | Angra Mainyu |
Passive | Fierce Guidance | Passive | Self | 35% | - | Krishna |
Passive | God of Ubiquity | Passive | Self | 30% | - | Vishnu A |
Passive | Hell Hound | Passive | Self | 20% | - | Cerberus A |
Passive | Kunitsukami's Pride | Passive | Self | 75% | - | Okuninushi |
Passive | Lady of the Lake | Passive | Self | 30% | - | Vivian |
Passive | Lord of Clouds | Passive | Self | 20% | - | Indrajit |
Passive | Mask of Veiled Beauty | Passive | Self | 20% | - | Lanling Wang |
Passive | Master of Hell | Passive | Self | 50% | - | Astaroth |
Passive | Recovery's Wisdom | Passive | Self | 30% | 1 | Thoth |
Passive | Swordsman in Boots | Passive | Self | 10% | - | Cait Sith |
Passive | Tachikoma Support | Passive | Self | 75% | - | Batou |
Passive | The Bloody Valkyrie | Passive | Self | 30% | - | Shalltear |
Passive | The First Drop | Passive | Self | 50% | - | Apsu |
Passive | Time Traveler | Passive | Self | 50% | - | Homura Akemi |
Passive | War Goddess | Passive | Self | 50% | - | Morrighan |
Demon Panels that increase Speed
Demon | Panel # | Boost | Effect |
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Anahita | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% to Ice damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Apsu | Panel 2 | 20% | +20% to own effect on Battle Speed. +15% to Ice damage. |
Astaroth | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to Phys damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Berserker Guts | Panel 4 | 30% | +30% to own effect on Battle Speed. Activates the following Chain Effect when a party member (including the skill holder) downs a demon: Removes debuffs from all party members. Gain an additional Press Turn Icon (Activates once per turn). |
Botis | Panel 1 | 20% | +20% to own effect on Battle Speed. Activates the following Chain Effect at the start of the 1st turn: Removes Barrier from all enemies. |
Botis | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to Elec damage dealt. +30% chance to inflict status ailments. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Cerberus A | Panel 3 | 30% | +20% to Phys/Fire damage. +20% to Critical hit rate. +30% to own effect on Battle Speed. Activates the following Chain Effect when the enemy is inflicted with Spirit Chains (Intimidation): Decreases the Fire Attribute Affinity of the enemy with the lowest current HP by 3 levels. (1 turn) *Activates once per turn. |
David | Panel 1 | 20% | +20% chance to inflict status ailments. +20% Phys evasion rate. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
David | Panel 3 | 20% | While the one with this skill is alive, -25% to enemy's natural recovery rate of status ailments. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Elohim | Panel 2 | 20% | +20% to Magic damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Elohim | Panel 3 | 20% | +25% to Magic damage. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Fariedone | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% to Phys damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed |
Garuda | Panel 3 | 20% | +30% to Phys evasion rate. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Garuda A | Panel 2 | 50% | +50% to own effect on Battle Speed. Activates the following Chain Effect after Gale Talon is used: Decreases the DEF and EV/AC of all enemies by 20%. (2 turns) |
Griffith | Panel 3 | 60% | +60% to own effect on Battle Speed. +25% to single-target attack damage. Enemies deal +25% damage when Charmed. |
Hachiman | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% Phys damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Hagen | Panel 1 | 20% | +20% to own effect on Battle Speed. While the one with this skill is alive, all party members will receive the following effect: +20% to hit rate. |
Hagen | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to Phys damage. +20% to hit rate. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Hresvelgr | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to max HP. -20% to Force damage received by all party members while this demon is alive. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Indra | Panel 1 | 20% | +20% to own effect on Battle Speed. -50% to Phys/Elec damage received. |
Indrajit | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% to Elec damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Indrajit | Panel 4 | 60% | +60% to own effect on Battle Speed. Activates the following Chain Effect when a party member (including the one with this skill) downs a demon: Enters a state of Concentrate. (Activates once per turn) |
Kalki | Panel 1 | 20% | +20% to own effect on Battle Speed. Activates the following Chain Effect at the start of the 1st turn: Grants a Bulwark with 1500 HP to the one with this skill. (1 turn) |
Kalki | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to Almighty damage. +20% to Max HP. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Kartikeya | Panel 2 | 30% | +30% to Battle Speed. |
Koga Saburo | Panel 2 | 30% | +30% to own affect on Battle Speed. Increases the uses of Soaring Blades by 3. |
Lanling Wang | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to Phys damage. +20% to Critical hit rate. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Lost Name | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to hit rate. +20% to Fire damage. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Lugh | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to Force/Light damage.+20% to hit rate. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Masakado A | Panel 4 | 30% | +30 to St, Ma, Vi, Ag and Lu. +30% to own effect on Battle Speed. |
Master Therion | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% to Fire/Ice damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Master Therion | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to max HP. +20% chance to inflict status ailments. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed |
Meliodas | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to Phys/Dark damage. +20% to Critical hit rate. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Michael | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% to damage dealt by attacks that target all or random enemies. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Michael | Panel 2 | 20% | +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. -50% to Light damage received. |
Michael | Panel 4 | 30% | +30% to own affect on Battle Speed. Adds Light Pierce and +15% to damage inflicted by all party members of the Divine/Herald races while the one with this skill is alive. |
Morrighan | Panel 1 | 20% | +20% to own effect on Battle Speed. Decreases the cost of Ruthless Death Gale by 1MP. |
Motoko Kusanagi | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to Phys damage. +20% chance to inflict status ailments. (max step bonus: Speed:+20%) |
Okuninushi | Panel 2 | 20% | +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. +20% to Light damage. |
Samyaza | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to Elec/Force damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Sraosha | Panel 2 | 30% | +30% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Sukuna-Hikona | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% to Light damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Sukuna-Hikona A | Panel 1 | 20% | +20% to own effect on Battle Speed. +20% to Ice damage. |
Tezcatlipoca | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% to Dark damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Vivian | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% to Ice damage. +20% to own effect on Battle Speed. |
Vritra | Panel 1 | 20% | +15% to Elec damage. +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Cait Sith | Panel 3 | 20% | +20% to own effect on Battle Speed. +20% to hit rate. |
Hell Biker | Panel 3 | 10% | Reduces the cost of Red Zone by 1MP. (max step bonus: Speed:+10%) |
Sleipnir | Panel 3 | 10% | +10% to this demon's affect on Battle Speed. |
Sonic | Panel 3 | 20% | +15% to Force damage. +10% to own affect on Battle Speed. (max step bonus: Speed:+10%) |
Armament Talents that increase Speed
Armament | Name | Boost | Effect |
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Indrajit Shield | Battlefield Lightning | 20% | +20% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Armament Panels that increase Speed
Armament | Panel # | Boost | Effect |
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Indrajit Shield | Panel 1 | 15% | +15% to own affect on Battle Speed. |
Masakado A Shield | Panel 1 | 15% | 20% to Max HP. +15% to own Battle Speed. |
Speed decreasers
Demon Skills that decrease Speed
Type | Name | MP Cost | Target | Decrease | Skill Points | Exclusive? |
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Passive | Epitome of Endurance | Passive | Self | 25% | 16 | - |
Passive | Phys Slowda | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Fire Slowda | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Ice Slowda | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Light Slowda | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Almighty Slowda | Passive | Self | 20% | 16 | - |
Passive | Patriotic General | Passive | Self | 30% | - | Masakado B |
See also
Game Mechanics | |
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Resources | Items • Talk • Magnetite/Fusion (Fusible Demons) • Karma • Summoning (Demon Summoning Pool, Skill Summoning Pool, Choice File) • Event Reward Demons • Season Pass |
Team Building | Battle Speed • Team restrictions • Liberators • Armaments • Demonite |
Upgrading | Leveling/Evolving • Awakening • Spirit Merge • Transcend |
Customization | Archetypes • Skill Transfer • Brands • Mitama • Sin Infusion • Devil Connector |
Misc | Formulas • AR Scanner • Devicon • Alignment |