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Karma is mainly obtained by selling Demons in the Pandemonium which is the easiest way to get rid of demons you consider useless.  
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=Overview=
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[[File:Icon Karma.png|32px|link=]] Karma:
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*is mainly obtained by selling Demons in the Pandemonium, which is the easiest way to get rid of demons you consider useless.
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*isn't a "farmable" resource, but more a resource that is accumulated.
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*is mainly used to purchase Arch-Shifters to change the [[Archetypes]] of Demons, though it may also be spent to summon some {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} [[Archetypes|Common Demons]].
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*may be spent in the '''Compendium''', at the Hideout, or in the '''Exchange''' area, accessible in the Store (button below) or in the Sell Demons facility at the Pandemonium (button at the lower left).
  
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Karma is not a "farmable" resource, but more a resource that is accumulated.
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=Karma management=
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==Karma sell values==
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There is no place to directly harvest Karma in the game - instead, you accumulate Karma by selling 3★, 4★ and 5★ demons. The amount of Karma you get depends on the demon's base rarity, and whether they are Clear or have a color:
  
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For non-veteran players, Karma is mainly used for Arch-Shifters to change the Archetypes of Demons.
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{| class="wikitable"
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|-
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! rowspan=2 | Demon Rarity !! colspan=2 | [[File:Icon Karma.png|32px|link=]] Karma gain
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! {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} Clear !! {{ArchIcon|arch=Red|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Yellow|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Purple|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Teal|size=15px}} Colored
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|-
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| 3★ || 1 || 10
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| 4★ || 30 || 300
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| 5★ || 250 || 2,500
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|}
  
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=Archetypes=
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===Selling Genomes===
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[[File:Arch-Selector 4★ on Sonic (Psychic).png|thumb|Archetypes: Aragami (red), Protector (yellow), Psychic (purple), and Elementalist (teal).]]
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As of Patch 3.2.00, you can sell [[File:Icon Skill Genome.png|32px|link=]] Skill Genomes in the items menu at the following rates:
  
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Each demon may exist in 5 Archetypes : Common (clear/grey), Aragami (red), Protector (yellow), Psychic (purple), and Elementalist (teal). The color/archetype your demon has is visible on its status page.
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Genome Rarity !! [[File:Icon Karma.png|32px|link=]] Karma gain
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| 3★ || 5
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| 4★ || 100
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| 5★ || 1,000
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[[File:Transferable_Skills.jpg|thumb|360px|[[Barong]]'s status page: his Awaken skill is Recarmdra, it is the skill marked by a lock. If Barong is Awakened the skill gets unlocked]]
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However, due to the scarcity of 4/5★ Genomes, '''it is ill-advised to sell Genomes for Karma'''.
  
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*The Archetype of a demon only determines the Awaken skill it possesses (see each demon wiki entry to see the different Awaken skills it may have).
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It is possible to obtain a supply of 4/5★ Genomes by spending 250 [[File:Icon Battle Points.png|32px|link=]] Battle Points on Elemental Skill Boxes, which hand out 4/5★ Genomes. The {{ElementIcon|Almighty|name=1}} Skill Box contains not-very-useful almighty attacks such as [[Necro Dogma]], which are considered 5★ Genomes, at the cost of 500 Duel Points.
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*Awaken skills are locked until the demon is Awakened in Pandemonium in exchange of Aethers (items you can farm in [[Strange Signal]]).
 
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*For a given demon, some archetypes may be better than others (see [[Tier List]] or the demon's wiki profile page to know what is the best Archetype for a given demon).
 
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*Archetypes are attributed to demons when you summon (Gacha) it. Except for "Normal Summon" and "Hell Bun Summon" (both only summon Common/Clear demons), the Archetypes of summoned demons are chosen completely randomly among the 4 non-Common Archetypes.
 
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*However fusing a demon allows you to fully decide which Archetype the demon will get: you need 1 of the two fusion materials to be Clear, and the result of the fusion will inherit the Archetype of the other fusion material.
 
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This poses a problem : whenever you pull/summon a demon, you only have a 1/4 chance of getting the demon's optimal Archetype. This is even more serious if the demon you wish to summon is not fusable.
 
  
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This problem is solved by items called Arch-Shifters and Arch-Selectors that allow you to change the Archetype of a demon. They are either obtained through events or in the Karma shop.
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As of September 2020, reaching Diamond 1 in PvP at the end of each ranked season will net you a "H" elemental skill such as [[Maragidyne H]] which is useful for [[Democalypse]], but also are 5★ Genomes worth 1000 karma.
  
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==Archetype Shifting Items==
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==Cost-per-Karma analysis==
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[[File:Karma_Shop.jpg|thumb|270px|Picture of the different Arch-Shifters]]
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If aiming to intentionally obtain demons to sell for Karma, the profit for doing so depends on the cost and difficulty of obtaining the demon.
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Arch-Shifters are consumable items that can be used on a '''non-Common''' Archetyped demon and, when used, '''randomly''' change the demon's Archetype.
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*2 types exist : one that can only be used on '''Natural''' 4★ (Arch-Shifter 4★) and the other on '''Natural''' 5★ only (Arch-Shifter 5★), that is, it doesn't matter that a demon was evolved, if it's originally a 4★ or a 5★ demon, it'll still require a 4★ or 5★ Selector/Shifter.
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There are basically three ways of obtaining demons:
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*The random aspect of the Archetype change means you will often need to use more than one Arch-Shifter on the same demon to obtain the desired Archetype.
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* [[Talk|talking]] and convincing them to join you
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*Arch-Selectors will allow you to change to the Archetype of your '''choice'''. They also come in the 2 same types.
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* [[Summoning Guide|summoning]] them using items
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*On a price per utility basis, Arch-Shifters are '''better''' than Arch-Selectors ''(on average you only need 3 Arch-Shifter to get the desired Archeype while Selectors cost 5 times more Karma)''
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* fusing two or more demons to create a new one.
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The cost of '''summoning''' is, simply put, time: it takes playing time to obtain items for Summoning, like [[File:Icon Gems.png|32px|link=]] Gems and Summoning Files.
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The cost of '''fusing''' is [[File:Icon Mag.png|32px|link=]] Magnetite, which also requires time to harvest, as events give a large amount of it. However, it is also possible to farm a decent amount of Mag passively from auto-play in the Aura Gate - see [[Magnetite#Farming_Magnetite|Farming Magnetite]] for details.
  
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The cost of '''talking''' is kind of a mix between those two: the game has an auto-talk feature, but it fails a lot, as it doesn't learn from previous conversations. Thus, although the game has a way of automatically gathering demons, it doesn't perform as well as manually talking to them, yielding less demons per Stamina spent.
  
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'''Managing Arch-Shifters'''
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Summarizing, [[File:Icon Mag.png|32px|link=]] Magnetite (usually) requires less effort to harvest than [[Talk|talking]] or [[Summoning Guide|summoning]] Demons, so fusing demons seems like a better way of obtaining higher-grade demons and, therefore, collecting more Karma.
  
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Arch-Shifters 5★ are very expensive: 3000 Karmas represent 10 non-Common 4★ demons sold... And 3 of them are usually needed. The 4★ version is also expensive for what it does. As such, Arch-Shifters should be kept for:
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=== Karma efficiency from fusion ===
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*Non-fusable Demons. Fusable ones should be fused with the correct Archetype instead.
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:<span style="color:#FF0000">'''NOTE: DO NOT FUSE TO GENERATE KARMA IF YOU ARE NEW. This is ONLY for endgame people who have nothing left to fuse, and have a large excess of Magnetite. New players should instead put Magnetite towards demons and panels that they will actually use.'''</span>
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*Demons you plan to use immediately and who would benefit a lot from having the correct Archetype. If you don't plan to use the demon in the near future, it is smarter to wait as there is a chance you would summon the Demon again but in its correct Archetype.
 
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*Very expensive fusable demons. It can be acceptable to use Shifters on very high Grade 5★ demons (Lucifer, Metatron, Shiva etc.) if you absolutely need them now.
 
  
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Aside from the very expensive Karma shop, Arch-Shifters can be obtained through events. It is not impossible to get one Arch-Shifter 5★ each month, from events, if Sega is being generous.
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:<span style="color:#FF0000">'''If you need arch shifters/selectors, just wait a couple weeks and an event will probably give you some for free.'''</span>
  
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=Karma management=
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The table below contains the costs for fusing some of the cheapest demons (rounded up):
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==Accumulating Karma==
 
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There is no place to directly harvest Karma. You accumulate Karma by selling 3★, 4★ and 5★ demons. The profit for selling demons depends on several factors, including which demons are sold, how they are obtained, how hard it is to obtain them, and how much and what it costs to obtain them. The table below contains the costs for some of the cheapest demons (rounded up):
 
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
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! Demon !! Cost !! Profit !! Rates
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! rowspan=2 | Demon !! rowspan=2 | Cost !! rowspan=2 | [[File:Icon Karma.png|32px|link=]] Karma Profit !! colspan=3 | Cost-per-Karma
 
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| 3★ Clear || rare demon talk || 1 Karma || 1 Demon/Karma
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! [[File:Icon Gems.png|32px|link=]] Gems !! [[File:Icon Mag.png|32px|link=]] Mag !! Other
 
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| 3★ Colored || 50~100 Gems || 10 Karma || 5~10 Gems/Karma
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| 3★ {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} Clear || rare demon talk || 1 Karma || - || - || 1 Demon
 
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| 4★ Clear || [[Sandalphon]]: 171k Mag + about 13 1★ Clear Demons || 30 Karma || 5700 Mag/Karma
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| 3★ {{ArchIcon|arch=Red|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Yellow|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Purple|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Teal|size=15px}} Colored || (50~100 Gems for summoning) || 10 Karma || 5-10 Gems || - || -
 
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| 4★ Colored || [[Sandalphon]]: 50-100 Gems + 2 1★ Clear Demon + 330k Mag || 300 Karma || 5-10 Gems + ~1100 Mag/Karma
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| 4★ {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} Clear || fusing {{DemonIcon|Sandalphon|size=32px}}: 171k Mag + about 13x 1★ Clear Demons || 30 Karma || - || 5700 Mag || -
 
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| 5★ Clear || [[Alilat]]: about 1M Mag + 60 1★ Clear Demons || 250 Karma || ~3850 Mag/Karma
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| 4★ {{ArchIcon|arch=Red|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Yellow|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Purple|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Teal|size=15px}} Colored || fusing {{DemonIcon|Sandalphon|size=32px}}: 50-100 Gems + 2x 1★ Clear Demon + 330k Mag || 300 Karma || 5-10 Gems || ~1100 Mag || -
 
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| 5★ Colored || [[Lilith]]: 50-100 Gems + about 36 1★ Clear Demons + 3.7M Karma || 2500 Karma || 5-10 Gems + ~1500 Mag/Karma
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| 5★ {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} Clear || fusing {{DemonIcon|Alilat|size=32px}}: about 1M Mag + 60x 1★ Clear Demons || 250 Karma || - || ~3850 Mag || -
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| 5★ {{ArchIcon|arch=Red|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Yellow|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Purple|size=15px}}{{ArchIcon|arch=Teal|size=15px}} Colored || fusing {{DemonIcon|Lilith|size=32px}}: 50-100 Gems + about 36x 1★ Clear Demons + 3.7M Mag || 2500 Karma || 5-10 Gems || ~1500 Mag || -
 
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As can be seen, the best Karma rates are obtained by selling fused 4★ Colored Demons, because the procedure to obtain "Gacha Demons" with Gems will surely crowd up the inventory with lots of useless 3★ Colored Demons, so fusing them into 4★ Colored Demons makes their 5 Gem cost irrelevant (they'd be spent anyway).
 
  
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From time to time, some demons get fusion price discounts, usually ranging from 10 to 20% cut, making the conversion rates even more attractive.
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====Idea 1: sell 3★ Colored demons immediately====
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Because the procedure to obtain "Gacha Demons" will surely crowd up the inventory with lots of useless 3★ [[Archetypes|Colored Demons]], their 5 [[File:Icon Gems.png|32px|link=]] Gem cost's irrelevant (they'd be spent anyway). This leads to the conclusion that the most inexpensive way to collect Karma is by selling 3★ Colored Demons for 10 Karma each, at a cost of effectively nothing. However, your Karma income will be *very* slow by doing that!
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For example, to purchase an [[File:Icon Arch Shifter 5 Star.png|32px|link=]] Arch-Shifter 5★ for 3,000 Karma, it would be necessary to sell 300x 3★ Colored Demons for 10 Karma each. 300 pulls happens to also be the amount of pity tomes needed to guarantee a banner 5★. If we assume you use that method with a step-up banner (first step costing 500 gems, steps 2-6 costing 1,000 gems each, and cycling), you can expect to spend about 27,000 gems to accumulate your 300x 3★ Colored Demons. Gem income per month is between 5,000 and 12,000, assuming you play daily and with all content, with the variance coming from PvP ranking. Therefore, you're looking at between 3-6 months just to collect the gems, likely on the longer end if you aren't a PvP god.
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Of course, this estimate assumes the worst-case that only 3★ Colored Demons will be pulled (technically unrealistically bad, since step-ups have guaranteed 4★/5★ on certain steps; but other than the guarantees, your luck can be close to that bad), or that the player won't want to sell away any of the eventual 4★ Colored Demons that they get (maybe it's a beginner, seeking quantity more than quality at the time).
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'''Conclusion:'''
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* In terms of getting steady Karma income, it's way too slow.
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* If you just need to make space in your inventory, selling the 3★ is fine, and should be your default action.
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====Idea 2: fuse 3★ Colored demons up, then sell====
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If you've reached a point in the game where you can harvest Magnetite fast enough, have a lot of it to spare, and are in a hurry to get Karma, it can be worth spending some Mag to fuse 3★ Colored Demons into a higher rarity before selling them. But how far should we go with this: 4★ or 5★?
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Looking at the table above, the most Mag-efficient method is fusing a 3★ Colored Demon into a 4★ Colored Demon, with a cost of ~1100 Mag per Karma gained.
  
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It's best to plan for the Colored Demon fusion to be the last, that is, the Colored Demon should directly yield a 4★ Demon, otherwise, more MAG will be spent fusing 1-3★ Colored Demons.
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If we assume this method, an [[File:Icon Arch Shifter 5 Star.png|32px|link=]] Arch-Shifter 5★ at 3,000 Karma is still quite expensive - you'd need to fuse 10x 4★ Colored Demons, at a cost of 3.3 mil Mag. That's approximately the Mag cost of fusing one 5★ Colored Demon.
  
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Important tips:
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Cost-saving tactics for fusion:
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*'''Do not sell 5★ Demons, EVER!''' Unwanted 5★ Demons should be [[Spirit_Merge|spiritized]] to unlock Panels of same type Demons or to enhance Armaments in [[Alter-World]].
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* Every month or so, some demon races will have a 30% off Fusion price discount, making the conversion rates more attractive.
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*'''Karma shouldn't be "farmed,"''' that is, do not pull/summon Colored Demons with Gems for the sake of "farming" Karma. Colored Demons, mainly 3★, will naturally pile up as one goes through banners to try getting rare Demons, so there will be plenty to be sold for their Karma.
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* Plan for the Colored Demon fusion to be used in the last step of the fusion (the step that actually creates the 4★). If you insert it earlier, you'll end up spending extra Mag on creating 3★ Colored demons.
  
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Not every 3★ and 4★ Demons are suitable for being sold:
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'''Conclusion:'''
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*if they have rare or useful transferable Gacha skills, you should keep them as transferable skill fodders (see [[Skill Transfer#Advanced skills - Hoarding Demons for their Gacha skills]] for a list of rare transferable Gacha skills).
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* If your Mag income is good, you can consider fusing 3★ Colored Demons into 4★ Colored Demons, then selling.
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*Common (aka Clear) Archetype demons should not be sold as they yield little Karma and are more useful as fusion material.
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* You should NOT expect to be able to do this with ''every'' 3★ Colored Demon that you pull - it'll cost too much Mag for you to keep up. If you just want to free up inventory space, sell the 3★ Colored demons raw.
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*Gacha demons (aka non-fusable) are not to be sold.
 
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*4★ can be useful for [[Democalypse]] (bi-weekly Faction Event) at least as long as you still lack 5★s. [[Anubis]] and [[Titania]] are the most notable decent 4★ to keep for [[Democalypse]] (check the [[Democalypse]] article and the [[Tier List]] to evaluate which ones you want to keep).
 
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**That being said, as you go through the game, gathering [[Magnetite]] to fuse 4★ will become quite easy. So, you shouldn't worry too much about selling fusable 4★.
 
  
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A few "useless" fusable demons should be kept for future fusions you may want to perform. Good fusion materials are high Grade demons, so you may want to keep the highest Grade 3 and 4 ★ demons. You would probably want them to be of diverse colors, in case you need to fuse a demon in a precise Archetype.
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=== What's worth selling? ===
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First of all, '''do not sell 5★ Demons, EVER!'''
  
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Only sell demons if you immediately need an Arch-Shifter or you feel flooded with too many Demons and are urged to do some cleaning.
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Unwanted 5★ Demons have several better uses to consider:
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* '''Fusion''' - If the 5★ demon is fusible, you could fuse into a different 5★ that you actually want to keep. However, ''do not consider doing this if the demon is gacha-exclusive!''
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* '''Paneling''' - [[Spirit Merge|Spiritizing]] dupes of a 5★ demon to unlock its Panels.
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** '''Fusing-then-Paneling''' - If the demon's panels don't look interesting, you could also fuse the 5★ into a different 5★ that you want to Panel instead, then spiritize it.
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* '''Armaments''' - Creating, Paneling or Upgrading [[Armaments]] in [[Alter-World]].
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** Note 1: Make sure you have the armament first before [[Spirit Merge|Spiritizing]]! Creating a new armament requires spending the actual demon - you cannot create an armament by spending spirits!
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** Note 2: while Paneling is Demon-specific (that is, it requires [[Spirit Merge|Spirits]] of the same Demon), Upgrading requires Demon Compound or any 4★ or 5★ Demon Spirits (5★ Spirits yields 100% success on Upgrading.)
  
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As of Patch 3.2.00, you can sell 4★ Genomes (100 Karma) and 5★ Genomes (1000 Karma) in the Items menu. However, due to the scarcity of 4/5★ Genomes, it is ill-advised to sell Genomes for Karma. It is possible to obtain a supply of 4/5★ Genome by spending 250 Duel Points on Elemental Skill Boxes which hand out 4/5★ Genomes. The Almighty Skill Box contains not very useful almighty attacks such as [[Necro Dogma]] which are considered 5★ Genomes at the cost of 500 Duel Points. As of September 2020, reaching Diamond 1 in PvP at the end of each ranked season will net you a "H" elemental skill such as [[Maragidyne H]] which is useful for [[Democalypse]], but also are 5★ Genomes worth 1000 karma.
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It's also less-efficient to fuse-then-sell 5★ compared to fuse-then-sell 4★, anyway.
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==== Which 3★ and 4★ to sell? ====
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Not every 3★ and 4★ Demon is suitable for being sold, though (they aren't ''all'' useless):
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* '''Skill Transfer''' - If they have rare or useful transferable Gacha skills, you should keep them as fodder for those skills. See the [[Skill Transfer#Advanced skills - Hoarding Demons for their Gacha skills|Skill Transfer]] article for some examples of what to look for.
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*'''Don't sell 3★ and 4★ {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} Common Demons''' - They yield very little Karma (1 and 30 respectively), and are a lot more useful as fusion materials.
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* '''Democalypse fillers''' - Some 4★ Demons can be useful for [[Democalypse]] (bi-weekly Faction Event), at least as long as you still lack 5★s.
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** Generally speaking, if the demon has an elemental boost skill such as [[Fire Boost]], then they are probably worth keeping. Additionally, it's worth keeping multiple copies of {{DemonIcon|Anubis|size=32px}} and {{DemonIcon|Titania|size=32px}} to cover different elements of Democalypse. Check the [[Democalypse]] article for additional notable demons.
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** That being said, gathering [[Magnetite]] to fuse 4★ will become easier the further you are in the game, so you shouldn't worry too much about selling fusible 4★.
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* '''Fusion fodder''' - If a 4★ is "useless" by the above rules, but still has a high Grade (generally 66 or higher), it may be worth keeping them around for performing future 5★ fusions.
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Only sell demons if you immediately need an Arch-Shifter, or you feel flooded with too many Demons and are urged to do some cleaning. Also, consult the [Beginner's_Guide#Managing_Demon_Inventory|Managing Demon Inventory]] section in the Beginner's Guide for more space-saving tips.
  
 
==Spending Karma==
 
==Spending Karma==
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===Exchange shop===
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[[File:Karma_Shop.jpg|thumb|270px|Picture of the different Arch-Shifters]]
 
Arch-Shifters are the primary items for Karma spending. But you can buy a few other items with Karma:
 
Arch-Shifters are the primary items for Karma spending. But you can buy a few other items with Karma:
  
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*Tendency Selectors: this item allows you to change the AI-type of a demon. 10 Karma in exchange of 10 Tendency Selectors; a very good price, good item to spend a few Karmas on.
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* '''[[File:Icon Tendency Selector.png|32px|link=]] Tendency Selectors:''' This item allows you to change a demon's AI when auto mode is on. 10 Karma for 10 Tendency Selectors is a very good price, so this is good item to spend a little Karma on.
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* '''Low-rarity demons (1★-3★):''' These can be purchased in the Compendium (not the Karma shop). {{DemonIcon|Kanbari|size=32px}} is one of the best Compendium demons to purchase (see [[Leveling]]).
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**Compendium summoning is the fastest and most-consistent method of obtaining fusion fodder, as it removes the randomness. For the best cost-efficiency, use the {{fusioncalc}} to find a recipe that uses 2★, then summon those 2★ from the compendium.
  
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*Low rarity demons (1 and 2 stars): they are purchased in the compendium (not the Karma shop). [[Kanbari]] is one of the better compendium demon to purchase (see [[Leveling]]).
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* '''[[File:Common 4 star choice file karma.png|32px|link=]] Common 4★ Choice File (Karma)''' This offers your pick from a pool of 4★ demons. '''Don't buy it, ever.''' You can easily fuse any of the demons on the file by using the {{fusioncalc}} and 2★ summoned from the compendium, for significantly-lower Karma cost.
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**Other than that it can be worth it to spend on 2★ if they belong to the road map for a demon you want to fuse.  
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** {{DemonIcon|Odin|size=32px}}, the hardest to fuse of the bunch, can be made with 15x 2★, which totals to just 150 Karma from the compendium. That's 85% less than buying the file!
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**But you should be very conservative with your Karma purchase with the compendium. Try to avoid it as 2 stars and 1 star demon are easy to recruit and fuse.
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** At best, you might be saving the [[File:Icon Mag.png|32px|link=]] Magnetite required to do the fusion, which in Odin's case is a little less than 500k. However, Magnetite is significantly more abundant than Karma, so it's still not worth buying the choice file. For comparison: Magnetite income from events and such is around 5mil per month, while getting 1,000 Karma requires selling either 100x 3★ or 4x 4★ from the gacha.
  
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*4★ (Clear) demons in the Karma shop: a selection of 4★ are available in the Karma shop. These are usually bought to be used in further fusions, saving you the MAG required to fuse them. Of all the 4★ on sale, Odin is the most valuable as he is expensive to fuse from scratch (500k MAG), . '''Don't buy these unless you have a clear fusion path in mind and want to save on MAG'''.
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* '''[[File:Icon 5 Star Hell Bun.png|32px|link=]] 5★ Hell Buns:''' These are ridiculously expensive, especially considering the 5★ you get is ''random''. '''Don't buy these'''.
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** For comparison, consider that the hardest-to-fuse demon in this pool, {{DemonIcon|Metatron|size=32px}}, would need 40x 2★ demons to make from scratch, costing a total of 400 Karma and 8.5 million Mag. While these buns could theoretically save you the Mag, actually obtaining the Karma for this would require selling a staggering 1,500x 3★ or 50x 4★ from the gacha.
  
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*Hell Buns: These are ridiculously expensive, don't buy them.
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* '''[[File:Icon Extreme Summon File.png|32px|link=]] Extreme Summon File:''' Extremely expensive, the demon you get is ''random'', and several of the demons in its pool are woefully outdated. '''Don't buy it'''.
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** Obtaining the Karma for this would require selling 25,000x 3★ or 834x 4★ from the gacha.
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Karma shop listings:
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{| class="wikitable sortable"
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! Item !! [[File:Icon Karma.png|32px|link=]] Karma cost !! Cap
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| [[File:Icon Extreme Summon File.png|32px|link=]] Extreme Summon File || 250,000 || 1 / month
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| [[File:Icon Transcend Stone.png|32px|link=]] [[Transcend]] Stone for {{DemonIcon|Indrajit|size=32px}} || 2,000 || 182
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| [[File:Icon Transcend Stone.png|32px|link=]] [[Transcend]] Stone for {{DemonIcon|Mahakala|size=32px}} || 2,000 || 182
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| [[File:Icon Transcend Stone.png|32px|link=]] [[Transcend]] Stone for {{DemonIcon|Yoshitsune|size=32px}} || 1,500 || 182
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| [[File:Icon Transcend Stone.png|32px|link=]] [[Transcend]] Stone for {{DemonIcon|Alice|size=32px}} || 1,500 || 182
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| [[File:Common 4 star choice file karma.png|32px|link=]] Common 4★ Choice File (Karma) || 1,000 || 6 / month
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|-
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| [[File:Icon 5 Star Hell Bun.png|32px|link=]] 5★ Hell Buns x50 || 15,000 || 2 / month
 +
|-
 +
| [[File:Icon Arch Selector 5 Star.png|32px|link=]] Arch-Selector 5★ || 15,000 || 1 / month
 +
|-
 +
| [[File:Icon Arch Selector 4 Star.png|32px|link=]] Arch-Selector 4★ || 2,500 || 1 / month
 +
|-
 +
| [[File:Icon Arch Shifter 5 Star.png|32px|link=]] Arch-Shifter 5★ || 3,000 || 5 / month
 +
|-
 +
| [[File:Icon Arch Shifter 4 Star.png|32px|link=]] Arch-Shifter 4★ || 500 || 5 / month
 +
|-
 +
| [[File:Icon Tendency Selector.png|32px|link=]] Tendency Selector 5★ x10 || 10 || No cap
 +
|}
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 +
====Common 4★ Choice File (Karma)====
 +
The [[File:Common 4 star choice file karma.png|32px|link=]] Common 4★ Choice File (Karma) lets you choose one of the following demons to receive:
 +
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 +
|-
 +
! Demon !! Race !! Grade !! Rarity
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|-
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| {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} {{DemonIcon|Odin|size=32px}} || Deity || 73 || 4★
 +
|-
 +
| {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} {{DemonIcon|Anubis|size=32px}} || Avatar || 70 || 4★
 +
|-
 +
| {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} {{DemonIcon|Azrael|size=32px}} || Herald || 67 || 4★
 +
|-
 +
| {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} {{DemonIcon|Rangda|size=32px}} || Femme || 67 || 4★
 +
|-
 +
| {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} {{DemonIcon|Sandalphon|size=32px}} || Herald || 61 || 4★
 +
|-
 +
| {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px}} {{DemonIcon|Wu Kong|size=32px}} || Fury || 61 || 4★
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
====Extreme Summon File====
 +
The [[File:Icon Extreme Summon File.png|32px|link=]] '''Extreme Summon File''' gives a '''random''' demon from the following pool. Demons are sorted into 3 rate tiers, with each demon in a tier having the same rate.
 +
 
 +
'''Tier 1 (3.518%)'''
 +
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 +
|-
 +
! Demon !! Race !! Grade !! Rarity
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Ose Hallel|size=32px}} || Seraph || 90 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Flauros Hallel|size=32px}} || Seraph || 91 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Ladon|size=32px}} || Drake || 83 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Cernunnos|size=32px}} || Reaper || 81 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Lanling Wang|size=32px}} || Hero || 81 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Fariedone|size=32px}} || Hero || 87 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|David|size=32px}} || Fiend || 80 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Samyaza|size=32px}} || Tyrant || 84 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Chi You|size=32px}} || Tyrant || 85 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Mithras|size=32px}} || Tyrant || 84 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Amon|size=32px}} || Tyrant || 93 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Pales|size=32px}} || Vile || 83 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Echidna|size=32px}} || Vile || 87 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Nyarlathotep|size=32px}} || Vile || 92 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Mada|size=32px}} || Vile || 86 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Tezcatlipoca|size=32px}} || Vile || 82 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Cthulhu|size=32px}} || Vile || 97 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Adramelech|size=32px}} || Fallen || 85 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Vritra|size=32px}} || Snake || 82 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Master Therion|size=32px}} || Yoma || 82 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Futsunushi|size=32px}} || Kishin || 85 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Sukuna-Hikona|size=32px}} || Kishin || 80 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Hinokagutsuchi|size=32px}} || Kishin || 89 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Heimdall|size=32px}} || Genma || 82 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Mahamayuri|size=32px}} || Deity || 85 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Hachiman|size=32px}} || Deity || 88 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Melchizedek|size=32px}} || Herald || 80 || 5★
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
'''Tier 2 (0.361%)'''
 +
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 +
|-
 +
! Demon !! Race !! Grade !! Rarity
 +
|-
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| {{DemonIcon|Yggdrasil|size=32px}} || Tree || 94 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Narcissus|size=32px}} || Tree || 80 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Longinus|size=32px}} || General || 84 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Guedhe|size=32px}} || Reaper || 83 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Rahab|size=32px}} || Dragon || 85 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Kangiten|size=32px}} || Enigma || 85 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Hagen|size=32px}} || Hero || 89 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Moloch|size=32px}} || Tyrant || 82 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Botis|size=32px}} || Fallen || 90 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Loup-Garou|size=32px}} || Beast || 85 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Kalki|size=32px}} || Deity || 97 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Indra|size=32px}} || Deity || 87 || 5★
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Apsu|size=32px}} || Deity || 89 || 5★
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
'''Tier 3 (0.300%)'''
 +
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 +
|-
 +
! Demon !! Race !! Grade !! Rarity
 +
|-
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Morrighan|size=32px}} || Flight || 91 || 5★
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
===Compendium===
 +
Karma can be spent to re-summon certain demons from the Compendium. However, there are several restrictions:
 +
 
 +
* You can only summon 1★-3★ demons that you have previously owned.
 +
* The demon summoned will always be {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear|size=15px|name=1}}.
 +
* You cannot summon [[Mitama]] demons, [[Event Reward Demons|event-exclusive demons]], or [[Summoning Pool|gacha-exclusive demons]].
 +
* Multi-fusion demons have a higher Karma cost.
 +
 
 +
{| class="wikitable "
 +
! Demon !! [[File:Icon Karma.png|32px|link=]] Karma Cost
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|-
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| most 1★ || 3
 +
|-
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| multi-fusion 1★ || 6
 +
|-
 +
| most 2★ || 10
 +
|-
 +
| multi-fusion 2★ || 20
 +
|-
 +
| most 3★ || 300
 +
|-
 +
| multi-fusion 3★ || 600
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|}
  
 
=See also=
 
=See also=
 +
*[[Archetypes]].
 
*[[Resource Management Guides]] for other advanced guides.
 
*[[Resource Management Guides]] for other advanced guides.
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'''For another uses of fodder demons:'''
+
'''For other uses of fodder demons:'''
 
*[[Skill Transfer]]
 
*[[Skill Transfer]]
 
*[[Leveling]]
 
*[[Leveling]]
 
*[[Spirit Merge]]
 
*[[Spirit Merge]]
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Latest revision as of 05:32, 1 February 2025

Overview

Icon Karma.png Karma:

  • is mainly obtained by selling Demons in the Pandemonium, which is the easiest way to get rid of demons you consider useless.
  • isn't a "farmable" resource, but more a resource that is accumulated.
  • is mainly used to purchase Arch-Shifters to change the Archetypes of Demons, though it may also be spent to summon some Clear Common Demons.
  • may be spent in the Compendium, at the Hideout, or in the Exchange area, accessible in the Store (button below) or in the Sell Demons facility at the Pandemonium (button at the lower left).

Karma management

Karma sell values

There is no place to directly harvest Karma in the game - instead, you accumulate Karma by selling 3★, 4★ and 5★ demons. The amount of Karma you get depends on the demon's base rarity, and whether they are Clear or have a color:

Demon Rarity Icon Karma.png Karma gain
Clear Clear Red Yellow Purple Teal Colored
3★ 1 10
4★ 30 300
5★ 250 2,500

Selling Genomes

As of Patch 3.2.00, you can sell Icon Skill Genome.png Skill Genomes in the items menu at the following rates:

Genome Rarity Icon Karma.png Karma gain
3★ 5
4★ 100
5★ 1,000

However, due to the scarcity of 4/5★ Genomes, it is ill-advised to sell Genomes for Karma.

It is possible to obtain a supply of 4/5★ Genomes by spending 250 Icon Battle Points.png Battle Points on Elemental Skill Boxes, which hand out 4/5★ Genomes. The Almighty Almighty Skill Box contains not-very-useful almighty attacks such as Necro Dogma, which are considered 5★ Genomes, at the cost of 500 Duel Points.

As of September 2020, reaching Diamond 1 in PvP at the end of each ranked season will net you a "H" elemental skill such as Maragidyne H which is useful for Democalypse, but also are 5★ Genomes worth 1000 karma.

Cost-per-Karma analysis

If aiming to intentionally obtain demons to sell for Karma, the profit for doing so depends on the cost and difficulty of obtaining the demon.

There are basically three ways of obtaining demons:

  • talking and convincing them to join you
  • summoning them using items
  • fusing two or more demons to create a new one.

The cost of summoning is, simply put, time: it takes playing time to obtain items for Summoning, like Icon Gems.png Gems and Summoning Files.

The cost of fusing is Icon Mag.png Magnetite, which also requires time to harvest, as events give a large amount of it. However, it is also possible to farm a decent amount of Mag passively from auto-play in the Aura Gate - see Farming Magnetite for details.

The cost of talking is kind of a mix between those two: the game has an auto-talk feature, but it fails a lot, as it doesn't learn from previous conversations. Thus, although the game has a way of automatically gathering demons, it doesn't perform as well as manually talking to them, yielding less demons per Stamina spent.

Summarizing, Icon Mag.png Magnetite (usually) requires less effort to harvest than talking or summoning Demons, so fusing demons seems like a better way of obtaining higher-grade demons and, therefore, collecting more Karma.

Karma efficiency from fusion

NOTE: DO NOT FUSE TO GENERATE KARMA IF YOU ARE NEW. This is ONLY for endgame people who have nothing left to fuse, and have a large excess of Magnetite. New players should instead put Magnetite towards demons and panels that they will actually use.
If you need arch shifters/selectors, just wait a couple weeks and an event will probably give you some for free.

The table below contains the costs for fusing some of the cheapest demons (rounded up):

Demon Cost Icon Karma.png Karma Profit Cost-per-Karma
Icon Gems.png Gems Icon Mag.png Mag Other
3★ Clear Clear rare demon talk 1 Karma - - 1 Demon
3★ Red Yellow Purple Teal Colored (50~100 Gems for summoning) 10 Karma 5-10 Gems - -
4★ Clear Clear fusing Sandalphon.jpg Sandalphon: 171k Mag + about 13x 1★ Clear Demons 30 Karma - 5700 Mag -
4★ Red Yellow Purple Teal Colored fusing Sandalphon.jpg Sandalphon: 50-100 Gems + 2x 1★ Clear Demon + 330k Mag 300 Karma 5-10 Gems ~1100 Mag -
5★ Clear Clear fusing Alilat.jpg Alilat: about 1M Mag + 60x 1★ Clear Demons 250 Karma - ~3850 Mag -
5★ Red Yellow Purple Teal Colored fusing Lilith.jpg Lilith: 50-100 Gems + about 36x 1★ Clear Demons + 3.7M Mag 2500 Karma 5-10 Gems ~1500 Mag -

Idea 1: sell 3★ Colored demons immediately

Because the procedure to obtain "Gacha Demons" will surely crowd up the inventory with lots of useless 3★ Colored Demons, their 5 Icon Gems.png Gem cost's irrelevant (they'd be spent anyway). This leads to the conclusion that the most inexpensive way to collect Karma is by selling 3★ Colored Demons for 10 Karma each, at a cost of effectively nothing. However, your Karma income will be *very* slow by doing that!

For example, to purchase an Icon Arch Shifter 5 Star.png Arch-Shifter 5★ for 3,000 Karma, it would be necessary to sell 300x 3★ Colored Demons for 10 Karma each. 300 pulls happens to also be the amount of pity tomes needed to guarantee a banner 5★. If we assume you use that method with a step-up banner (first step costing 500 gems, steps 2-6 costing 1,000 gems each, and cycling), you can expect to spend about 27,000 gems to accumulate your 300x 3★ Colored Demons. Gem income per month is between 5,000 and 12,000, assuming you play daily and with all content, with the variance coming from PvP ranking. Therefore, you're looking at between 3-6 months just to collect the gems, likely on the longer end if you aren't a PvP god.

Of course, this estimate assumes the worst-case that only 3★ Colored Demons will be pulled (technically unrealistically bad, since step-ups have guaranteed 4★/5★ on certain steps; but other than the guarantees, your luck can be close to that bad), or that the player won't want to sell away any of the eventual 4★ Colored Demons that they get (maybe it's a beginner, seeking quantity more than quality at the time).

Conclusion:

  • In terms of getting steady Karma income, it's way too slow.
  • If you just need to make space in your inventory, selling the 3★ is fine, and should be your default action.

Idea 2: fuse 3★ Colored demons up, then sell

If you've reached a point in the game where you can harvest Magnetite fast enough, have a lot of it to spare, and are in a hurry to get Karma, it can be worth spending some Mag to fuse 3★ Colored Demons into a higher rarity before selling them. But how far should we go with this: 4★ or 5★?

Looking at the table above, the most Mag-efficient method is fusing a 3★ Colored Demon into a 4★ Colored Demon, with a cost of ~1100 Mag per Karma gained.

If we assume this method, an Icon Arch Shifter 5 Star.png Arch-Shifter 5★ at 3,000 Karma is still quite expensive - you'd need to fuse 10x 4★ Colored Demons, at a cost of 3.3 mil Mag. That's approximately the Mag cost of fusing one 5★ Colored Demon.

Cost-saving tactics for fusion:

  • Every month or so, some demon races will have a 30% off Fusion price discount, making the conversion rates more attractive.
  • Plan for the Colored Demon fusion to be used in the last step of the fusion (the step that actually creates the 4★). If you insert it earlier, you'll end up spending extra Mag on creating 3★ Colored demons.

Conclusion:

  • If your Mag income is good, you can consider fusing 3★ Colored Demons into 4★ Colored Demons, then selling.
  • You should NOT expect to be able to do this with every 3★ Colored Demon that you pull - it'll cost too much Mag for you to keep up. If you just want to free up inventory space, sell the 3★ Colored demons raw.

What's worth selling?

First of all, do not sell 5★ Demons, EVER!

Unwanted 5★ Demons have several better uses to consider:

  • Fusion - If the 5★ demon is fusible, you could fuse into a different 5★ that you actually want to keep. However, do not consider doing this if the demon is gacha-exclusive!
  • Paneling - Spiritizing dupes of a 5★ demon to unlock its Panels.
    • Fusing-then-Paneling - If the demon's panels don't look interesting, you could also fuse the 5★ into a different 5★ that you want to Panel instead, then spiritize it.
  • Armaments - Creating, Paneling or Upgrading Armaments in Alter-World.
    • Note 1: Make sure you have the armament first before Spiritizing! Creating a new armament requires spending the actual demon - you cannot create an armament by spending spirits!
    • Note 2: while Paneling is Demon-specific (that is, it requires Spirits of the same Demon), Upgrading requires Demon Compound or any 4★ or 5★ Demon Spirits (5★ Spirits yields 100% success on Upgrading.)

It's also less-efficient to fuse-then-sell 5★ compared to fuse-then-sell 4★, anyway.

Which 3★ and 4★ to sell?

Not every 3★ and 4★ Demon is suitable for being sold, though (they aren't all useless):

  • Skill Transfer - If they have rare or useful transferable Gacha skills, you should keep them as fodder for those skills. See the Skill Transfer article for some examples of what to look for.
  • Don't sell 3★ and 4★ Clear Common Demons - They yield very little Karma (1 and 30 respectively), and are a lot more useful as fusion materials.
  • Democalypse fillers - Some 4★ Demons can be useful for Democalypse (bi-weekly Faction Event), at least as long as you still lack 5★s.
    • Generally speaking, if the demon has an elemental boost skill such as Fire Boost, then they are probably worth keeping. Additionally, it's worth keeping multiple copies of Anubis.jpg Anubis and Titania.jpg Titania to cover different elements of Democalypse. Check the Democalypse article for additional notable demons.
    • That being said, gathering Magnetite to fuse 4★ will become easier the further you are in the game, so you shouldn't worry too much about selling fusible 4★.
  • Fusion fodder - If a 4★ is "useless" by the above rules, but still has a high Grade (generally 66 or higher), it may be worth keeping them around for performing future 5★ fusions.

Only sell demons if you immediately need an Arch-Shifter, or you feel flooded with too many Demons and are urged to do some cleaning. Also, consult the [Beginner's_Guide#Managing_Demon_Inventory|Managing Demon Inventory]] section in the Beginner's Guide for more space-saving tips.

Spending Karma

Exchange shop

Picture of the different Arch-Shifters

Arch-Shifters are the primary items for Karma spending. But you can buy a few other items with Karma:

  • Icon Tendency Selector.png Tendency Selectors: This item allows you to change a demon's AI when auto mode is on. 10 Karma for 10 Tendency Selectors is a very good price, so this is good item to spend a little Karma on.
  • Low-rarity demons (1★-3★): These can be purchased in the Compendium (not the Karma shop). Kanbari.jpg Kanbari is one of the best Compendium demons to purchase (see Leveling).
    • Compendium summoning is the fastest and most-consistent method of obtaining fusion fodder, as it removes the randomness. For the best cost-efficiency, use the Fusion Calculator to find a recipe that uses 2★, then summon those 2★ from the compendium.
  • Common 4 star choice file karma.png Common 4★ Choice File (Karma) This offers your pick from a pool of 4★ demons. Don't buy it, ever. You can easily fuse any of the demons on the file by using the Fusion Calculator and 2★ summoned from the compendium, for significantly-lower Karma cost.
    • Odin.jpg Odin, the hardest to fuse of the bunch, can be made with 15x 2★, which totals to just 150 Karma from the compendium. That's 85% less than buying the file!
    • At best, you might be saving the Icon Mag.png Magnetite required to do the fusion, which in Odin's case is a little less than 500k. However, Magnetite is significantly more abundant than Karma, so it's still not worth buying the choice file. For comparison: Magnetite income from events and such is around 5mil per month, while getting 1,000 Karma requires selling either 100x 3★ or 4x 4★ from the gacha.
  • Icon 5 Star Hell Bun.png 5★ Hell Buns: These are ridiculously expensive, especially considering the 5★ you get is random. Don't buy these.
    • For comparison, consider that the hardest-to-fuse demon in this pool, Metatron.jpg Metatron, would need 40x 2★ demons to make from scratch, costing a total of 400 Karma and 8.5 million Mag. While these buns could theoretically save you the Mag, actually obtaining the Karma for this would require selling a staggering 1,500x 3★ or 50x 4★ from the gacha.
  • Icon Extreme Summon File.png Extreme Summon File: Extremely expensive, the demon you get is random, and several of the demons in its pool are woefully outdated. Don't buy it.
    • Obtaining the Karma for this would require selling 25,000x 3★ or 834x 4★ from the gacha.

Karma shop listings:

Item Icon Karma.png Karma cost Cap
Icon Extreme Summon File.png Extreme Summon File 250,000 1 / month
Icon Transcend Stone.png Transcend Stone for Indrajit.jpg Indrajit 2,000 182
Icon Transcend Stone.png Transcend Stone for Mahakala.jpg Mahakala 2,000 182
Icon Transcend Stone.png Transcend Stone for Yoshitsune.jpg Yoshitsune 1,500 182
Icon Transcend Stone.png Transcend Stone for Alice.jpg Alice 1,500 182
Common 4 star choice file karma.png Common 4★ Choice File (Karma) 1,000 6 / month
Icon 5 Star Hell Bun.png 5★ Hell Buns x50 15,000 2 / month
Icon Arch Selector 5 Star.png Arch-Selector 5★ 15,000 1 / month
Icon Arch Selector 4 Star.png Arch-Selector 4★ 2,500 1 / month
Icon Arch Shifter 5 Star.png Arch-Shifter 5★ 3,000 5 / month
Icon Arch Shifter 4 Star.png Arch-Shifter 4★ 500 5 / month
Icon Tendency Selector.png Tendency Selector 5★ x10 10 No cap

Common 4★ Choice File (Karma)

The Common 4 star choice file karma.png Common 4★ Choice File (Karma) lets you choose one of the following demons to receive:

Demon Race Grade Rarity
Clear Odin.jpg Odin Deity 73 4★
Clear Anubis.jpg Anubis Avatar 70 4★
Clear Azrael.jpg Azrael Herald 67 4★
Clear Rangda.jpg Rangda Femme 67 4★
Clear Sandalphon.jpg Sandalphon Herald 61 4★
Clear Wu Kong.jpg Wu Kong Fury 61 4★

Extreme Summon File

The Icon Extreme Summon File.png Extreme Summon File gives a random demon from the following pool. Demons are sorted into 3 rate tiers, with each demon in a tier having the same rate.

Tier 1 (3.518%)

Demon Race Grade Rarity
Ose Hallel.jpg Ose Hallel Seraph 90 5★
Flauros Hallel.jpg Flauros Hallel Seraph 91 5★
Ladon.jpg Ladon Drake 83 5★
Cernunnos.jpg Cernunnos Reaper 81 5★
Lanling Wang.jpg Lanling Wang Hero 81 5★
Fariedone.jpg Fariedone Hero 87 5★
David.jpg David Fiend 80 5★
Samyaza.jpg Samyaza Tyrant 84 5★
Chi You.jpg Chi You Tyrant 85 5★
Mithras.jpg Mithras Tyrant 84 5★
Amon.jpg Amon Tyrant 93 5★
Pales.jpg Pales Vile 83 5★
Echidna.jpg Echidna Vile 87 5★
Nyarlathotep.jpg Nyarlathotep Vile 92 5★
Mada.jpg Mada Vile 86 5★
Tezcatlipoca.jpg Tezcatlipoca Vile 82 5★
Cthulhu.jpg Cthulhu Vile 97 5★
Adramelech.jpg Adramelech Fallen 85 5★
Vritra.jpg Vritra Snake 82 5★
Master Therion.jpg Master Therion Yoma 82 5★
Futsunushi.jpg Futsunushi Kishin 85 5★
Sukuna-Hikona.jpg Sukuna-Hikona Kishin 80 5★
Hinokagutsuchi.jpg Hinokagutsuchi Kishin 89 5★
Heimdall.jpg Heimdall Genma 82 5★
Mahamayuri.jpg Mahamayuri Deity 85 5★
Hachiman.jpg Hachiman Deity 88 5★
Melchizedek.jpg Melchizedek Herald 80 5★

Tier 2 (0.361%)

Demon Race Grade Rarity
Yggdrasil.jpg Yggdrasil Tree 94 5★
Narcissus.jpg Narcissus Tree 80 5★
Longinus.jpg Longinus General 84 5★
Guedhe.jpg Guedhe Reaper 83 5★
Rahab.jpg Rahab Dragon 85 5★
Kangiten.jpg Kangiten Enigma 85 5★
Hagen.jpg Hagen Hero 89 5★
Moloch.jpg Moloch Tyrant 82 5★
Botis.jpg Botis Fallen 90 5★
Loup-Garou.jpg Loup-Garou Beast 85 5★
Kalki.jpg Kalki Deity 97 5★
Indra.jpg Indra Deity 87 5★
Apsu.jpg Apsu Deity 89 5★

Tier 3 (0.300%)

Demon Race Grade Rarity
Morrighan.jpg Morrighan Flight 91 5★

Compendium

Karma can be spent to re-summon certain demons from the Compendium. However, there are several restrictions:

Demon Icon Karma.png Karma Cost
most 1★ 3
multi-fusion 1★ 6
most 2★ 10
multi-fusion 2★ 20
most 3★ 300
multi-fusion 3★ 600

See also

For other uses of fodder demons:

Game Mechanics
Resources Items • Talk • Magnetite/Fusion (Fusible Demons) • Karma • Summoning (Demon Summoning Pool, Skill Summoning Pool, Choice File) • Event Reward Demons • Season Pass
Team Building Battle Speed • Team restrictions • Liberators • Armaments • Demonite
Upgrading Leveling/Evolving • Awakening • Spirit Merge • Transcend
Customization Archetypes • Skill Transfer • Brands • Mitama • Sin Infusion • Devil Connector
Misc Formulas • AR Scanner • Devicon • Alignment
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