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(How Skill Switch Works: rewording - there is only one tray, NOT a separate tray for each slot. The contents of the tray is shared across all eligible slots.)
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* '''Transcend Stones, much like Spirits, are unit-specific''' - This means that, for example, {{DemonIcon|Barong|size=32px}} Transcend Stones cannot be used to upgrade {{DemonIcon|Michael|size=32px}}.
 
* '''Transcend Stones, much like Spirits, are unit-specific''' - This means that, for example, {{DemonIcon|Barong|size=32px}} Transcend Stones cannot be used to upgrade {{DemonIcon|Michael|size=32px}}.
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** {{TranscendIcon|SkillSlot|size=32px}} '''Skill Slot panel''' - costs 10 stones.
 
** {{TranscendIcon|SkillSlot|size=32px}} '''Skill Slot panel''' - costs 10 stones.
  
=== 2 Skill Switches Minimum ===
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=== {{TranscendIcon|SkillSwitch|size=32px}}{{TranscendIcon|SkillSwitch|size=32px}} 2 Skill Switches Minimum ===
 
* If you only want the first 2 skill switches, and skip all non-required panels to get there, you will need a minimum of '''15 stones'''.
 
* If you only want the first 2 skill switches, and skip all non-required panels to get there, you will need a minimum of '''15 stones'''.
 
** (9 * 1) + (1 * 2) + (1 * 4) = 15
 
** (9 * 1) + (1 * 2) + (1 * 4) = 15
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! Base Rarity !! Total [[File:Icon Transcend Motes.png|32px|link=]] Motes for min-cost 2 skill switches
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! Base Rarity !! Total [[File:Icon Transcend Motes.png|32px|link=]] Motes needed
 
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| 4★ || 225
 
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| 1★ - 3★ || 75
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| 1★ - 2★ || 75
 
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=== Skill Slot + 3 Skill Switches Minimum ===
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=== {{TranscendIcon|SkillSlot|size=32px}}{{TranscendIcon|SkillSwitch|size=32px}}{{TranscendIcon|SkillSwitch|size=32px}}{{TranscendIcon|SkillSwitch|size=32px}} Skill Slot + 3 Skill Switches Minimum ===
 
* If you only want the extra skill slot + 3 skill switches, and skip all non-required panels to get there, you will need a minimum of '''75 stones'''.
 
* If you only want the extra skill slot + 3 skill switches, and skip all non-required panels to get there, you will need a minimum of '''75 stones'''.
 
** 94 - (13 * 1) - (3 * 2) = 75
 
** 94 - (13 * 1) - (3 * 2) = 75
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! Base Rarity !! Total [[File:Icon Transcend Motes.png|32px|link=]] Motes for min-cost skill slot + 3 skill switches
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! Base Rarity !! Total [[File:Icon Transcend Motes.png|32px|link=]] Motes needed
 
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| 5★ || 3,750
 
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| 4★ || 1,125
 
| 4★ || 1,125
 
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| 1★ - 3★ || 375
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| 3★ || 750
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| 1★ - 2★ || 375
 
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=== Skill Slot + 1 Skill Switch Minimum ===
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=== {{TranscendIcon|SkillSlot|size=32px}} Skill Slot Minimum ===
 
* If you only want the extra skill slot and don't care for skill switches, and skip all non-required panels to get there, you will need a minimum of '''69 stones'''.
 
* If you only want the extra skill slot and don't care for skill switches, and skip all non-required panels to get there, you will need a minimum of '''69 stones'''.
 
** 94 - (13 * 1) - (4 * 2) - (4 * 1) = 69
 
** 94 - (13 * 1) - (4 * 2) - (4 * 1) = 69
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! Base Rarity !! Total [[File:Icon Transcend Motes.png|32px|link=]] Motes for min-cost skill slot + 3 skill switches
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! Base Rarity !! Total [[File:Icon Transcend Motes.png|32px|link=]] Motes needed
 
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| 5★ || 3,450
 
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| 4★ || 1,035
 
| 4★ || 1,035
 
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| 3★ || 690
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| 1★ - 2★ || 345
 
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! Base Rarity !! Total [[File:Icon Transcend Motes.png|32px|link=]] Motes for all 50 panels
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! Base Rarity !! Total [[File:Icon Transcend Motes.png|32px|link=]] Motes needed
 
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| 4★ || 1,410
 
| 4★ || 1,410
 
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Main Notes:
 
Main Notes:
 
* The {{TranscendIcon|SkillSlot|size=32px}} '''Skill Slot panel''' is the most-important panel in the grid. The extra slot can be used for more damage, more bulk, more speed, etc - whatever your demon specializes in.
 
* The {{TranscendIcon|SkillSlot|size=32px}} '''Skill Slot panel''' is the most-important panel in the grid. The extra slot can be used for more damage, more bulk, more speed, etc - whatever your demon specializes in.
* {{TranscendIcon|SkillSwitch|size=32px}} '''Skill Switch panels''' are the second-most-important. These allow you to run  
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* {{TranscendIcon|SkillSwitch|size=32px}} '''Skill Switch panels''' are the second-most-important. These allow you to run multiple builds' worth of skills on a single demon, and swap them as needed.
 
* Only invest if you have enough Motes/Stones to reach at least one of the above. If you don't have enough Motes/Stones, then there is no reason to transcend (the stat boosts are not that great), and you should wait until you have more resources.
 
* Only invest if you have enough Motes/Stones to reach at least one of the above. If you don't have enough Motes/Stones, then there is no reason to transcend (the stat boosts are not that great), and you should wait until you have more resources.
  
 
=== How Skill Switch Works ===
 
=== How Skill Switch Works ===
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[[File:Skill switches.jpg|right|thumb|300px|300px|Example of 2 skill switches and the "tray"]]
 
* Each panel enables a transferable skill slot to access the "sub-slot tray", starting from the leftmost slot.
 
* Each panel enables a transferable skill slot to access the "sub-slot tray", starting from the leftmost slot.
 
* Each panel ''also'' increases the capacity of the tray by 1.
 
* Each panel ''also'' increases the capacity of the tray by 1.
 
** So for example, the first skill switch panel lets your first transferable skill slot use the tray, and the tray has a capacity of 1 (doesn't count currently-equipped skills).
 
** So for example, the first skill switch panel lets your first transferable skill slot use the tray, and the tray has a capacity of 1 (doesn't count currently-equipped skills).
** The second skill switch panel lets your second transferable skill slot use the tray, and increases the tray's capacity capacity to 2.
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** The second skill switch panel lets your second transferable skill slot use the tray, and increases the tray's capacity to 2.
 
** The third skill switch panel lets your third transferable skill slot use the tray, and increases the tray's capacity to 3.
 
** The third skill switch panel lets your third transferable skill slot use the tray, and increases the tray's capacity to 3.
  
 
Using the tray, you can switch a demon's transferable skills at any time outside of combat/aura gate.
 
Using the tray, you can switch a demon's transferable skills at any time outside of combat/aura gate.
* This effectively means you can have multiple builds on the same demon, saving the resources needed to panel a second copy (assuming your multiple builds are okay with the same archetype color).
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* This effectively means you can have multiple builds on the same demon, saving the resources needed to panel a second copy (assuming your multiple builds are okay with using the same archetype color).
 
* [[Democalypse]] generalists especially benefit from this, as they can have multiple elemental spells in their tray, and can switch them out according to what's needed for the day.
 
* [[Democalypse]] generalists especially benefit from this, as they can have multiple elemental spells in their tray, and can switch them out according to what's needed for the day.
* Demons that are used in multiple pieces of content can also benefit: for example, {{DemonIcon|Mastema|size=32px}} can use [[Resist Fire]] for [[Brands of Sin: Sloth|Sloth]] farming, but use a damage booster for [[Democalypse]].
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* Demons that are used in multiple pieces of content can also benefit: for example, {{DemonIcon|Mastema|size=32px}} can use [[Resist Fire]] for [[Brands of Sin: Sloth]] farming, but use a damage booster for [[Democalypse]].
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* Unlocking 2 skill switches costs just 15 [[File:Icon Transcend Stone.png|32px|link=]] stones, which is 750 [[File:Icon Transcend Motes.png|32px|link=]] motes for a 5★. This is not a bad price for the utility gained.
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Recommended skill switch investments:
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* {{DemonIcon|Masakado A|size=32px}}: Run [[Auto-Taruka]]/[[Auto-Rakunda]], plus up to 3 different elemental-physical AoE spells (such as [[Rending Ice]]) for Democalypse Prelim.
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* {{DemonIcon|Agni|size=32px}}: Run {{ArchIcon|arch=Purple|size=15px|name=1}} with [[Auto-Taruka]], plus up to 3 different elemental AoE spells (such as [[Mamudodyne]]) for Democalypse Prelim.
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* {{DemonIcon|Garuda|size=32px}}: Run [[Auto-Taruka]] (or [[Blood Rush]]/[[War Dance]]/[[Luster Candy]] if manual-buffing), plus up to 3 different elemental AoE spells for Democalypse Prelim.
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** If he's {{ArchIcon|arch=Red|size=15px|name=1}}, then {{ElementIcon|Fire|name=1}} + 3 other elements can be covered this way.
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* {{DemonIcon|Ananta|size=32px}}: Run [[Auto-Rakunda]], plus up to 3 different elemental AoE spells (such as [[Mazionga]]) for Democalypse Prelim.
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** If he's {{ArchIcon|arch=Red|size=15px|name=1}}, then {{ElementIcon|Ice|name=1}} + 3 other elements can be covered this way.
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* {{DemonIcon|Ishtar|size=32px}}: Run [[Merciless Blow]], plus up to 3 different elemental single-target spells (such as [[Ice Age]]) for Democalypse Boss.
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** If she's {{ArchIcon|arch=Red|size=15px|name=1}}, then {{ElementIcon|Light|name=1}} + 3 other elements can be covered this way.
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* {{DemonIcon|Beelzebub☆|size=32px}}: Run [[Merciless Blow]], plus 3 elemental random-target spells (such as [[Holy Wrath]]) for Democalypse Boss
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* {{DemonIcon|Mot|size=32px}}: Run {{ArchIcon|arch=Purple|size=15px|name=1}} with [[Blood Rush]]/[[War Dance]]/[[Luster Candy]], plus up to 3 different elemental single-target spells (such as [[Agidyne]]) for Democalypse Boss.
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** If you want to use him in all 7 elements, then you of course won't have room for all 7 elemental spells at once - it may be more cost-effective for him to run -dynes and overwrite them by spending common [[File:Icon Yasaka Magatama.png|32px|link=]] Yasaka Magatamas, rather than spending rare [[File:Icon Blank Genome.png|32px|link=]] Blank Genomes every couple weeks to take off valuable tier 4 skills.
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**For which spells to keep on him, probably keep [[Zandyne]] on since it's only fusibly available from {{DemonIcon|Loki|size=32px}}, an expensive 4★.
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* {{DemonIcon|Elohim|size=32px}}: Run {{ArchIcon|arch=Purple|size=15px|name=1}} with a normal {{ElementIcon|Fire|name=1}} build in 2 slots, and a build for a different Democalypse element in the remaining 2 slots. Use in Fire Boss, but Prelim for other elements.
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* {{DemonIcon|Izanami|size=32px}}: Run {{ArchIcon|arch=Purple|size=15px|name=1}} with an {{ElementIcon|Elec|name=1}} build in 2 slots, and a {{ElementIcon|Dark|name=1}} build in the remaining 2 slots. This saves resources, as you'd then only have to panel one copy of her.
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* {{DemonIcon|Mastema|size=32px}}: Run {{ArchIcon|arch=Purple|size=15px|name=1}} with [[Resist Fire]] for Brands of Sin: Sloth, otherwise switch to a damage booster such as [[Light Boost]].
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** If you only want 1 switch, then you can save some stones/motes here - unlocking just one switch costs 7 stones, or 350 motes. Make sure Resist Fire is in the leftmost slot if you do this!
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Latest revision as of 00:16, 17 February 2024

WIP

Basics

Example of a Transcend grid
  • Transcend is a method for upgrading demons' stats, as well as adding an additional skill slot and "skill switch" slots. It is unlocked by clearing the Chapter 3 Epilogue.
  • Transcend requires Icon Transcend Stone.png "Transcend Stones". You can obtain these from:
    • Event rewards (usually 20 Stones total for a fusible 5★ demon).
    • Exchanging Icon Transcend Motes.png "Transcend Motes" for Stones in the shop (see exchange rates below).
    • Certain demons have stones available in the Icon Karma.png Karma shop, at a rate of 1,500 Karma per Stone.
    • Seraph.jpg Seraph and Norn.jpg Norn Stones can be obtained with Icon Democalypse Coins.png Democalypse Coins in the Democalypse shop.
  • Icon Transcend Motes.png Transcend Motes are obtained by summoning on certain banners.
    • Pulling a 3★ gives 1 Mote
    • 4★ gives 5 Motes
    • 5★ gives 35 Motes
    • Generally speaking, you can only get Motes from banners that cost gems. You cannot get Motes from free summon files, hell buns, parchments, etc!
  • You may only perform the Motes-to-Stones exchange for demons that you have raised to level 50.
  • The exchange rate for Motes-to-Stones will vary by a demon's base rarity:
Base Rarity Icon Transcend Motes.png Motes for 1 Icon Transcend Stone.png Stone
5★ 50
4★ 15
3★ 10
1★ - 2★ 5
  • Transcend Stones, much like Spirits, are unit-specific - This means that, for example, Barong.jpg Barong Transcend Stones cannot be used to upgrade Michael.jpg Michael.
  • Transcend grid progress applies to all demons of that type - For example: if you Transcended a Pixie.jpg Pixie, then that upgrade applies to all Pixies that you own, and all Pixies that you obtain later on.

Transcend Grid

  • Transcend Stones can be spent to unlock panels on a demon's Transcend grid.
  • All Transcend grids have the same general shape.
  • Each grid contains 50 panels, split up into these types and quantities:
Type Quantity
TranscendIcon Green HP.png (green) HP +20 x25
TranscendIcon Green PDef.png (green) Phys Def +20 x8
TranscendIcon Green MDef.png (green) Mag Def +20 x8
TranscendIcon Blue PAtk.pngTranscendIcon Blue PDef.pngTranscendIcon Blue MAtk.pngTranscendIcon Blue MDef.png (blue) [stat] +25 x5
TranscendIcon SkillSwitch.png Skill Switch x3
TranscendIcon SkillSlot.png Skill Slot x1
  • For the blue stat panels, each demon is automatically assigned one stat out of: TranscendIcon Blue PAtk.png Phys Atk, TranscendIcon Blue PDef.png Phys Def, TranscendIcon Blue MAtk.png Mag Atk, or TranscendIcon Blue MDef.png Mag Def. Their blue stat panels will only boost their one assigned stat (for example, Gogmagog.jpg Gogmagog's blue stat panels will only boost his Phys Def).

Cost Analysis

  • The amount of Icon Transcend Stone.png Stones needed per panel will vary by their type and position in the grid:
    • TranscendIcon Green HP.pngTranscendIcon Green PDef.pngTranscendIcon Green MDef.png Green stat panels - These initially cost 1 Stone each, but increase to 2 Stones each after moving downwards from the second Skill Switch Panel. This amounts to 22 panels that cost 1 Stone, and 19 panels that cost 2 Stones.
    • TranscendIcon Blue PAtk.pngTranscendIcon Blue PDef.pngTranscendIcon Blue MAtk.pngTranscendIcon Blue MDef.png Blue stat panels - the first three will cost 2 Stones each, while the fourth and fifth cost 4 Stones each.
    • TranscendIcon SkillSwitch.png Skill Switch panels - The first one costs 2 stones, while the second and third cost 4 stones each.
    • TranscendIcon SkillSlot.png Skill Slot panel - costs 10 stones.

TranscendIcon SkillSwitch.pngTranscendIcon SkillSwitch.png 2 Skill Switches Minimum

  • If you only want the first 2 skill switches, and skip all non-required panels to get there, you will need a minimum of 15 stones.
    • (9 * 1) + (1 * 2) + (1 * 4) = 15
    • In Motes, that will cost the following:
Base Rarity Total Icon Transcend Motes.png Motes needed
5★ 750
4★ 225
3★ 150
1★ - 2★ 75

TranscendIcon SkillSlot.pngTranscendIcon SkillSwitch.pngTranscendIcon SkillSwitch.pngTranscendIcon SkillSwitch.png Skill Slot + 3 Skill Switches Minimum

  • If you only want the extra skill slot + 3 skill switches, and skip all non-required panels to get there, you will need a minimum of 75 stones.
    • 94 - (13 * 1) - (3 * 2) = 75
    • In Motes, that will cost the following:
Base Rarity Total Icon Transcend Motes.png Motes needed
5★ 3,750
4★ 1,125
3★ 750
1★ - 2★ 375

TranscendIcon SkillSlot.png Skill Slot Minimum

  • If you only want the extra skill slot and don't care for skill switches, and skip all non-required panels to get there, you will need a minimum of 69 stones.
    • 94 - (13 * 1) - (4 * 2) - (4 * 1) = 69
    • In Motes, that will cost the following:
Base Rarity Total Icon Transcend Motes.png Motes needed
5★ 3,450
4★ 1,035
3★ 690
1★ - 2★ 345

Everything

  • In total, unlocking all 50 panels for a demon will cost 94 stones.
    • [(22 * 1) + (19 * 2)] + [(3 * 2) + (2 * 4)] + [(1 * 2) + (2 * 4)] + [(1 * 10)] = 94
    • In Motes, that will cost the following:
Base Rarity Total Icon Transcend Motes.png Motes needed
5★ 4,700
4★ 1,410
3★ 940
1★ - 2★ 470

Transcending Guide

WIP

Main Notes:

  • The TranscendIcon SkillSlot.png Skill Slot panel is the most-important panel in the grid. The extra slot can be used for more damage, more bulk, more speed, etc - whatever your demon specializes in.
  • TranscendIcon SkillSwitch.png Skill Switch panels are the second-most-important. These allow you to run multiple builds' worth of skills on a single demon, and swap them as needed.
  • Only invest if you have enough Motes/Stones to reach at least one of the above. If you don't have enough Motes/Stones, then there is no reason to transcend (the stat boosts are not that great), and you should wait until you have more resources.

How Skill Switch Works

Example of 2 skill switches and the "tray"
  • Each panel enables a transferable skill slot to access the "sub-slot tray", starting from the leftmost slot.
  • Each panel also increases the capacity of the tray by 1.
    • So for example, the first skill switch panel lets your first transferable skill slot use the tray, and the tray has a capacity of 1 (doesn't count currently-equipped skills).
    • The second skill switch panel lets your second transferable skill slot use the tray, and increases the tray's capacity to 2.
    • The third skill switch panel lets your third transferable skill slot use the tray, and increases the tray's capacity to 3.

Using the tray, you can switch a demon's transferable skills at any time outside of combat/aura gate.

  • This effectively means you can have multiple builds on the same demon, saving the resources needed to panel a second copy (assuming your multiple builds are okay with using the same archetype color).
  • Democalypse generalists especially benefit from this, as they can have multiple elemental spells in their tray, and can switch them out according to what's needed for the day.
  • Demons that are used in multiple pieces of content can also benefit: for example, Mastema.jpg Mastema can use Resist Fire for Brands of Sin: Sloth farming, but use a damage booster for Democalypse.
  • Unlocking 2 skill switches costs just 15 Icon Transcend Stone.png stones, which is 750 Icon Transcend Motes.png motes for a 5★. This is not a bad price for the utility gained.

Recommended skill switch investments:

  • Masakado A.jpg Masakado A: Run Auto-Taruka/Auto-Rakunda, plus up to 3 different elemental-physical AoE spells (such as Rending Ice) for Democalypse Prelim.
  • Agni.jpg Agni: Run Purple Purple with Auto-Taruka, plus up to 3 different elemental AoE spells (such as Mamudodyne) for Democalypse Prelim.
  • Garuda.jpg Garuda: Run Auto-Taruka (or Blood Rush/War Dance/Luster Candy if manual-buffing), plus up to 3 different elemental AoE spells for Democalypse Prelim.
    • If he's Red Red, then Fire Fire + 3 other elements can be covered this way.
  • Ananta.jpg Ananta: Run Auto-Rakunda, plus up to 3 different elemental AoE spells (such as Mazionga) for Democalypse Prelim.
    • If he's Red Red, then Ice Ice + 3 other elements can be covered this way.
  • Ishtar.jpg Ishtar: Run Merciless Blow, plus up to 3 different elemental single-target spells (such as Ice Age) for Democalypse Boss.
    • If she's Red Red, then Light Light + 3 other elements can be covered this way.
  • Beelzebub☆.jpg Beelzebub☆: Run Merciless Blow, plus 3 elemental random-target spells (such as Holy Wrath) for Democalypse Boss
  • Mot.jpg Mot: Run Purple Purple with Blood Rush/War Dance/Luster Candy, plus up to 3 different elemental single-target spells (such as Agidyne) for Democalypse Boss.
    • If you want to use him in all 7 elements, then you of course won't have room for all 7 elemental spells at once - it may be more cost-effective for him to run -dynes and overwrite them by spending common Icon Yasaka Magatama.png Yasaka Magatamas, rather than spending rare Icon Blank Genome.png Blank Genomes every couple weeks to take off valuable tier 4 skills.
    • For which spells to keep on him, probably keep Zandyne on since it's only fusibly available from Loki.jpg Loki, an expensive 4★.
  • Elohim.jpg Elohim: Run Purple Purple with a normal Fire Fire build in 2 slots, and a build for a different Democalypse element in the remaining 2 slots. Use in Fire Boss, but Prelim for other elements.
  • Izanami.jpg Izanami: Run Purple Purple with an Elec Elec build in 2 slots, and a Dark Dark build in the remaining 2 slots. This saves resources, as you'd then only have to panel one copy of her.
  • Mastema.jpg Mastema: Run Purple Purple with Resist Fire for Brands of Sin: Sloth, otherwise switch to a damage booster such as Light Boost.
    • If you only want 1 switch, then you can save some stones/motes here - unlocking just one switch costs 7 stones, or 350 motes. Make sure Resist Fire is in the leftmost slot if you do this!
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