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'''Anti-damage reduction''', also known as '''reverse damage reduction''' (no official name), refers to effects that apply a negative amount of damage reduction, causing the affected demon to take more damage. This is not the same as normal damage boosts.
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'''Anti-damage reduction (ADR)''', also known as '''reverse damage reduction (RDR)''' (no official name), refers to effects that apply a negative amount of damage reduction, causing the affected demon to take more damage. This is not the same as normal damage boosts.
  
 
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==Mechanics==
 
==Mechanics==
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Reverse damage reduction is applied at the end of the damage formula, where it is additive to normal [[damage reduction]]. For more details, see [[Formulas#Damage|Damage Formula]].
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Anti-damage reduction is applied at the end of the damage formula, where it is additive to normal [[damage reduction]]. For more details, see [[Formulas#Damage|Damage Formula]].
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* Due to this, reverse reduction can directly counteract normal damage reduction.
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* Due to this, anti-damage reduction can directly counteract normal damage reduction.
 
** For example: if an enemy has a passive that grants -80% Elec damage taken, and your party has {{DemonIcon|Botis|size=32px}} (applies +40% damage taken), then that partially cancels the enemy's passive (-80 + 40). This results in a total of -40% damage taken instead.
 
** For example: if an enemy has a passive that grants -80% Elec damage taken, and your party has {{DemonIcon|Botis|size=32px}} (applies +40% damage taken), then that partially cancels the enemy's passive (-80 + 40). This results in a total of -40% damage taken instead.
 
* Normal damage boosts (such as [[Elec Amp]]) cannot counteract damage reduction in any way.
 
* Normal damage boosts (such as [[Elec Amp]]) cannot counteract damage reduction in any way.
  
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Due to how the math works out, reverse damage reduction will result in higher damage output than an equivalent % of normal damage boosters.
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Due to how the math works out, anti-damage reduction will result in higher damage output than an equivalent % of normal damage boosters.
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* For example: Suppose {{DemonIcon|Elohim|size=32px}} is in a party with {{DemonIcon|Mithras|size=32px}}. The 40% reverse reduction from Mithras's [[Covenant Bless]] results in more damage output than Elohim equipping 40% worth of damage boosts (such as [[Fire Amp]] (25%) + [[Fire Boost]] (15%)).
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* For example: Suppose {{DemonIcon|Elohim|size=32px}} is in a party with {{DemonIcon|Mithras|size=32px}}. The 40% anti-damage reduction from Mithras's [[Covenant Bless]] results in more damage output than Elohim equipping 40% worth of damage boosts (such as [[Fire Amp]] (25%) + [[Fire Boost]] (15%)).
  
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Skills that apply reverse damage reduction are usually phrased as affecting the damage the enemy takes/receives, rather than the amount of damage your party deals. For effects that increase the damage your party deals, see [[damage boost]].
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Skills that apply anti-damage reduction are usually phrased as affecting the damage the enemy takes/receives, rather than the amount of damage your party deals. For effects that increase the damage your party deals, see [[damage boost]].
  
 
==Appliers==
 
==Appliers==
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===Skills that apply reverse damage reduction to enemies===
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===Skills that apply anti-damage reduction to enemies===
 
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!Type !!Name !!MP Cost !!Target !!Amount !! Skill Points !!Exclusive?
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!Type !!Name !!Target !!Amount !!Damage Type !!Conditional? !!Skill Points !!Exclusive?
 
|- style="vertical-align:middle;"
 
|- style="vertical-align:middle;"
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|-
 +
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|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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| [[Immortal Sea Serpent]]
 +
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 +
| (5 * X)%
 +
| All damage
 +
| Enemies with [[Spirit Chains]] (5% per type)
 +
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Hydra|size=32px}}
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|-
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|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[The Wings of Darkness]]
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 20%
 +
| All damage
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| Enemies with {{EffectIcon|Decay|name=1}}
 +
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Femto|size=32px}}
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|-
 +
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[War Goddess]]
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 20%
 +
| All damage
 +
| Enemies with {{EffectIcon|Spirit Chains (Corrosion)|name=1}}
 +
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Morrighan|size=32px}}
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|-
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|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Empress of Thunder]]
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 25%
 +
| All damage
 +
| Enemies with [[Bulwark]]
 +
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Arshes Nei|size=32px}}
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|-
 +
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Peerless Beauty]]
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 30%
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| All damage
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| Enemies with an [[Ailments|Ailment]]
 +
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Cleopatra|size=32px}}
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|-
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|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Tempestuous Malice]]
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 30%
 +
| All damage
 +
| Enemies with an [[Ailments|Ailment]]
 +
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Tiamat A|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Covenant Bless]]
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|[[Proof of Determination]]
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|Passive
 
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 40% Fire/Light
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| 40%
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| All damage
 +
| If All Allies have {{EffectIcon|Zenith|name=1}}
 
| -
 
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Mithras|size=32px}}
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| {{DemonIcon|Fionn mac Cumhaill|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|[[Crawling Chaos]]
 
|[[Crawling Chaos]]
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|Passive
 
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 25% Magic
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| 25%
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| Magic attacks
 +
| Enemies with {{EffectIcon|Gloom|name=1}}
 
| -
 
| -
 
| {{DemonIcon|Nyarlathotep|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Nyarlathotep|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Dark Eclipse Voltage]]
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|[[Hedonistic Reaper]]
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| Passive
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 25%
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| Physical attacks
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| Enemies with {{EffectIcon|Gloom|name=1}}
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| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Guedhe|size=32px}}
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|-
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|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Pure Maiden]]
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 40% Elec
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| 20%
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| Critical Hits
 
| -
 
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Botis|size=32px}}
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| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Artemis|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Hedonistic Reaper]]
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|[[Corrosive Malice]]
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| Passive
 
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 25% Physical
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| 20%
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| Critical Hits
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| If All Allies have {{EffectIcon|Malice|name=1}}
 
| -
 
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Guedhe|size=32px}}
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| {{DemonIcon|Shiva M|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Lady of the Lake]]
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|[[Covenant Bless]]
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| Passive
 
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 40% Ice
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| 40%
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| {{ElementIcon|Fire}}{{ElementIcon|Light}} Fire/Light
 
| -
 
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Vivian|size=32px}}
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| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Mithras|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Peerless Beauty]]
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|[[Illusory Dream]]
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| Passive
 
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 30% All
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| 40%
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| {{ElementIcon|Fire|name=1}}
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| Enemies with {{EffectIcon|Spirit Chains (Corrosion)|name=1}}
 
| -
 
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Cleopatra|size=32px}}
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| {{DemonIcon|Peri|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Tempestuous Malice]]
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|[[Illusory Dream]]
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| Passive
 
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 30% All
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| 40%
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| {{ElementIcon|Fire|name=1}}
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| Only in All [[Brands of Sin]] Stage 14s
 
| -
 
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Tiamat A|size=32px}}
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| {{DemonIcon|Peri|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[The Wings of Darkness]]
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|[[Lady of the Lake]]
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| Passive
 
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 20% All
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| 40%
 +
| {{ElementIcon|Ice|name=1}}
 
| -
 
| -
−
| {{DemonIcon|Femto|size=32px}}
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| -
 +
| {{DemonIcon|Vivian|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[War Goddess]]
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|[[Dark Eclipse Voltage]]
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| Passive
 
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 20% All
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| 40%
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| {{ElementIcon|Elec|name=1}}
 
| -
 
| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Morrighan|size=32px}}
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| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Botis|size=32px}}
 
|}
 
|}
  
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===Demon Panels that apply reverse damage reduction to enemies===
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===Demon Panels that apply anti-damage reduction to enemies===
 
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| {{DemonIcon|Cleopatra|size=32px}}
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| {{DemonIcon|Belial|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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| Panel 3
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| While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received while inflicted with Spirit Chains (Corrosion).
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| +40% to Phys and Fire damage. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +30% to damage received while Cursed.  
 
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| {{DemonIcon|Kali A|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Kali A|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
 
| Panel 2
 
| While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +20% to damage received while inflicted with Gloom.
 
| While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +20% to damage received while inflicted with Gloom.
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| {{DemonIcon|Cleopatra|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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| While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received while inflicted with Spirit Chains (Corrosion).
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|-
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| {{DemonIcon|Inanna|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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| +500 to Mag DEF. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to Magic damage taken.
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| {{DemonIcon|Nuwa|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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| Adds Null Mute. While the one with this skill is alive, enemies inflicted with Spirit Chains (Suppression) will receive the following effect: +10% to damage received and -30% to damage dealt.
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| {{DemonIcon|The Hero|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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| Adds Null Bind. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received from Critical hits.
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|-
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| {{DemonIcon|Albion|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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|  -50% to Critical hit rate of attacks received. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to Phys/Fire/Ice/Elec/Force damage received.
 
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===Skills that apply reverse damage reduction to self===
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===Skills that apply anti-damage reduction to self===
 
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Latest revision as of 22:55, 26 March 2025

Anti-damage reduction (ADR), also known as reverse damage reduction (RDR) (no official name), refers to effects that apply a negative amount of damage reduction, causing the affected demon to take more damage. This is not the same as normal damage boosts.

Mechanics

Anti-damage reduction is applied at the end of the damage formula, where it is additive to normal damage reduction. For more details, see Damage Formula.

  • Due to this, anti-damage reduction can directly counteract normal damage reduction.
    • For example: if an enemy has a passive that grants -80% Elec damage taken, and your party has Botis.jpg Botis (applies +40% damage taken), then that partially cancels the enemy's passive (-80 + 40). This results in a total of -40% damage taken instead.
  • Normal damage boosts (such as Elec Amp) cannot counteract damage reduction in any way.

Due to how the math works out, anti-damage reduction will result in higher damage output than an equivalent % of normal damage boosters.

  • For example: Suppose Elohim.jpg Elohim is in a party with Mithras.jpg Mithras. The 40% anti-damage reduction from Mithras's Covenant Bless results in more damage output than Elohim equipping 40% worth of damage boosts (such as Fire Amp (25%) + Fire Boost (15%)).

Skills that apply anti-damage reduction are usually phrased as affecting the damage the enemy takes/receives, rather than the amount of damage your party deals. For effects that increase the damage your party deals, see damage boost.

Appliers

Skills that apply anti-damage reduction to enemies

Type Name Target Amount Damage Type Conditional? Skill Points Exclusive?
Passive Passive Immortal Sea Serpent All Targets All Targets (5 * X)% All damage Enemies with Spirit Chains (5% per type) - Hydra.jpg Hydra
Passive Passive The Wings of Darkness All Targets All Targets 20% All damage Enemies with Icon Decay.png Decay - Femto.jpg Femto
Passive Passive War Goddess All Targets All Targets 20% All damage Enemies with Icon Spirit Chains of Corrosion.png Spirit Chains (Corrosion) - Morrighan.jpg Morrighan
Passive Passive Empress of Thunder All Targets All Targets 25% All damage Enemies with Bulwark - Arshes Nei.jpg Arshes Nei
Passive Passive Peerless Beauty All Targets All Targets 30% All damage Enemies with an Ailment - Cleopatra.jpg Cleopatra
Passive Passive Tempestuous Malice All Targets All Targets 30% All damage Enemies with an Ailment - Tiamat A.jpg Tiamat A
Passive Passive Proof of Determination All Targets All Targets 40% All damage If All Allies have Icon Zenith.png Zenith - Fionn mac Cumhaill.jpg Fionn mac Cumhaill
Passive Passive Crawling Chaos All Targets All Targets 25% Magic attacks Enemies with Icon Gloom.png Gloom - Nyarlathotep.jpg Nyarlathotep
Passive Passive Hedonistic Reaper All Targets All Targets 25% Physical attacks Enemies with Icon Gloom.png Gloom - Guedhe.jpg Guedhe
Passive Passive Pure Maiden All Targets All Targets 20% Critical Hits - - Artemis.jpg Artemis
Passive Passive Corrosive Malice All Targets All Targets 20% Critical Hits If All Allies have Icon Malice.png Malice - Shiva M.jpg Shiva M
Passive Passive Covenant Bless All Targets All Targets 40% Fire Light Fire/Light - - Mithras.jpg Mithras
Passive Passive Illusory Dream All Targets All Targets 40% Fire Fire Enemies with Icon Spirit Chains of Corrosion.png Spirit Chains (Corrosion) - Peri.jpg Peri
Passive Passive Illusory Dream All Targets All Targets 40% Fire Fire Only in All Brands of Sin Stage 14s - Peri.jpg Peri
Passive Passive Lady of the Lake All Targets All Targets 40% Ice Ice - - Vivian.jpg Vivian
Passive Passive Dark Eclipse Voltage All Targets All Targets 40% Elec Elec - - Botis.jpg Botis

Demon Panels that apply anti-damage reduction to enemies

Demon Panel # Effect
Belial.jpg Belial Panel 3 +40% to Phys and Fire damage. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +30% to damage received while Cursed.
Kali A.jpg Kali A Panel 2 While the one with this skill is alive, all Cursed enemies will receive the following effect: -50% to Healing skill effectiveness, +15% to damage received.
Masakado B.jpg Masakado B Panel 2 While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received while inflicted with Spirit Chains of Suppression.
Old Ones.jpg Old Ones Panel 2 While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +20% to damage received while inflicted with Gloom.
Cleopatra.jpg Cleopatra Panel 2 While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received while inflicted with Spirit Chains (Corrosion).
Inanna.jpg Inanna Panel 2 +500 to Mag DEF. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to Magic damage taken.
Nuwa.jpg Nuwa Panel 2 Adds Null Mute. While the one with this skill is alive, enemies inflicted with Spirit Chains (Suppression) will receive the following effect: +10% to damage received and -30% to damage dealt.
The Hero.jpg The Hero Panel 2 Adds Null Bind. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received from Critical hits.
Albion.jpg Albion Panel 2 -50% to Critical hit rate of attacks received. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to Phys/Fire/Ice/Elec/Force damage received.

Skills that apply anti-damage reduction to self

Type Name MP Cost Target Amount Skill Points Exclusive?
Passive Passive Berserker (Skill) Passive Self 20% All 18 -
Passive Passive Holy Immunity Passive Self 60% Fire - Ainz.jpg Ainz
Skill Effects
Attributes
(Elements) 		Phys Phys • Fire Fire • Ice Ice • Elec Elec • Force Force • Light Light • Dark Dark • Almighty Almighty • Multi Multi Skills
Ailments
(Bad Status Effects) 		Icon Bind.png Bind • Icon Charm.png Charm • Icon Curse.png Curse • Icon Mute.png Mute • Icon Poison.png Poison • Icon Weak.png Weak • Status Ailment Resonance • Cleric
Good Status Effects Icon Barrier.png Barrier • Icon Charge.png Charge • Icon Concentrate.png Concentrate • Icon Critical.png Might • Icon Lydia.png Lydia • Icon Repel Magic.pngIcon Repel Almighty Magic.png Repel Magic • Icon Repel Physical.pngIcon Repel Almighty Physical.png Repel Physical • Icon Null Mortal.png Evade Mortal
Spirit Chains Icon Spirit Chains of Corrosion.png Corrosion • Icon Spirit Chains of Indignation.png Indignation • Icon Spirit Chains of Intimidation.png Intimidation • Icon Spirit Chains of Salvation.png Salvation • Icon Spirit Chains of Suppression.png Suppression
Other Special Effects Icon Youre Next.png You're Next • Icon Revive Ban.png Revive Ban • Icon Zenith.png Zenith • Icon Gloom.png Gloom • Icon Attribute Affinity Reinforcement.png Attribute Affinity Reinforcement • Icon Elec Resistance Down 2.png Attribute affinity down • Icon Fortify.png Fortify • Icon Decay.png Decay • Icon Malice.png Malice • Order Crest
Buffs Icon ATK Buff.png ATK Buff • Icon DEF Buff.png DEF Buff • Icon EVAC Buff.png EV/AC Buff
Debuffs Icon ATK Debuff.png ATK Debuff • Icon DEF Debuff.png DEF Debuff • Icon EVAC Debuff.png EV/AC Debuff
HP Max HP • Healing • Steal HP
MP Max MP • Naturally recovered MP • Recover MP • Steal MP • Lose MP • MP cost up • MP cost down
Stats Strength (Str) • Magic (Mag) • Vitality (Vit) • Agility (Agi) • Luck (Luk)
Offense Pierce • Mortal • Fractional Damage • Fixed Damage • Accuracy and Evasion • Critical hit • Weak point • Standard/Normal Attack • Damage boost • Reverse damage reduction
Defense Pierce Negation (Anti-Pierce) • Bulwark • Counter • Death Prevention (Endures) • Revival • Reverse damage boost • Damage reduction • Preferential Target • Super Reaction
Other Press Turn • Remnants • Passing • Battle Speed • Chain Effect turn order • Boost Level • Party Effect • Field Effects
Non-Combative Trap Negation • Icon Tome of Exp 12h.png EXP Up • Icon Macca.png Macca Up
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