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'''Reverse damage reduction''' (no official name) refers to effects that apply a negative amount of damage reduction, causing the affected demon to take more damage. This is not the same as normal damage boosts.
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'''Anti-damage reduction (ADR)''', also known as '''reverse damage reduction (RDR)''' (no official name), refers to effects that apply a negative amount of damage reduction, causing the affected demon to take more damage. This is not the same as normal damage boosts.
  
 
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==Mechanics==
 
==Mechanics==
Reverse damage reduction is applied at the end of the damage formula, where it is additive to normal damage reduction. For more details, see [[Formulas#Damage|Damage Formula]].
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Anti-damage reduction is applied at the end of the damage formula, where it is additive to normal [[damage reduction]]. For more details, see [[Formulas#Damage|Damage Formula]].
* Due to this, reverse reduction can directly counteract normal damage reduction.
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* Due to this, anti-damage reduction can directly counteract normal damage reduction.
 
** For example: if an enemy has a passive that grants -80% Elec damage taken, and your party has {{DemonIcon|Botis|size=32px}} (applies +40% damage taken), then that partially cancels the enemy's passive (-80 + 40). This results in a total of -40% damage taken instead.
 
** For example: if an enemy has a passive that grants -80% Elec damage taken, and your party has {{DemonIcon|Botis|size=32px}} (applies +40% damage taken), then that partially cancels the enemy's passive (-80 + 40). This results in a total of -40% damage taken instead.
 
* Normal damage boosts (such as [[Elec Amp]]) cannot counteract damage reduction in any way.
 
* Normal damage boosts (such as [[Elec Amp]]) cannot counteract damage reduction in any way.
  
Due to how the math works out, reverse damage reduction will result in higher damage output than an equivalent % of normal damage boosters.
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Due to how the math works out, anti-damage reduction will result in higher damage output than an equivalent % of normal damage boosters.
* For example: Suppose {{DemonIcon|Elohim|size=32px}} is in a party with {{DemonIcon|Mithras|size=32px}}. The 40% reverse reduction from Mithras's [[Covenant Bless]] results in more damage output than Elohim equipping 40% worth of damage boosts (such as [[Fire Amp]] (25%) + [[Fire Boost]] (15%)).
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* For example: Suppose {{DemonIcon|Elohim|size=32px}} is in a party with {{DemonIcon|Mithras|size=32px}}. The 40% anti-damage reduction from Mithras's [[Covenant Bless]] results in more damage output than Elohim equipping 40% worth of damage boosts (such as [[Fire Amp]] (25%) + [[Fire Boost]] (15%)).
  
Skills that apply reverse damage reduction are usually phrased as affecting the damage the enemy takes/receives, rather than the amount of damage the party deals.
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Skills that apply anti-damage reduction are usually phrased as affecting the damage the enemy takes/receives, rather than the amount of damage your party deals. For effects that increase the damage your party deals, see [[damage boost]].
  
 
==Appliers==
 
==Appliers==
===Skills that apply reverse damage reduction to enemies===
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===Skills that apply anti-damage reduction to enemies===
 
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|-
!Type !!Name !!MP Cost !!Target !!Amount !! Skill Points !!Exclusive?
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!Type !!Name !!MP Cost !!Target !!Amount !! Conditional? !!Skill Points !!Exclusive?
 
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| 40% Fire/Light
 
| 40% Fire/Light
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| -
 
| -
 
| -
 
| {{DemonIcon|Mithras|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Mithras|size=32px}}
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| 25% Magic
 
| 25% Magic
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| Enemies with {{EffectIcon|Gloom|name=1}}
 
| -
 
| -
 
| {{DemonIcon|Nyarlathotep|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Nyarlathotep|size=32px}}
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| 40% Elec
 
| 40% Elec
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| -
 
| -
 
| -
 
| {{DemonIcon|Botis|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Botis|size=32px}}
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| 25% Physical
 
| 25% Physical
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| Enemies with {{EffectIcon|Gloom|name=1}}
 
| -
 
| -
 
| {{DemonIcon|Guedhe|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Guedhe|size=32px}}
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|-
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|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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| [[Immortal Sea Serpent]]
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| Passive
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| (5 * X)% All
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| Enemies with [[Spirit Chains]] (5% per type)
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| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Hydra|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| 40% Ice
 
| 40% Ice
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| -
 
| -
 
| -
 
| {{DemonIcon|Vivian|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Vivian|size=32px}}
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| Passive
 
| Passive
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
| 30% all
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| 30% All
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| Enemies with an [[Ailments|Ailment]]
 
| -
 
| -
 
| {{DemonIcon|Cleopatra|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Cleopatra|size=32px}}
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|-
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|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Tempestuous Malice]]
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| Passive
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 30% All
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| Enemies with an [[Ailments|Ailment]]
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| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Tiamat A|size=32px}}
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|-
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|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[The Wings of Darkness]]
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| Passive
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 20% All
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| Enemies with {{EffectIcon|Decay|name=1}}
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| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Femto|size=32px}}
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
 
|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
 
| 20% All
 
| 20% All
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| Enemies with {{EffectIcon|Spirit Chains (Corrosion)|name=1}}
 
| -
 
| -
 
| {{DemonIcon|Morrighan|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Morrighan|size=32px}}
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|-
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|{{ElementIcon|Passive|name=1}}
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|[[Pure Maiden]]
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| Passive
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| {{TargetingIcon|All|name=1}}
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| 20% Critical Hits
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|
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| -
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| {{DemonIcon|Artemis|size=32px}}
 
|}
 
|}
  
===Demon Panels that apply reverse damage reduction to enemies===
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===Demon Panels that apply anti-damage reduction to enemies===
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable"
 
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!Demon !!Panel # !!Effect
 
!Demon !!Panel # !!Effect
 
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| {{DemonIcon|Belial|size=32px}}
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| Panel 3
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| +40% to Phys and Fire damage. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +30% to damage received while Cursed.
 
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|-
 
| {{DemonIcon|Cleopatra|size=32px}}
 
| {{DemonIcon|Cleopatra|size=32px}}
 
| Panel 2
 
| Panel 2
 
| While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received while inflicted with Spirit Chains (Corrosion).
 
| While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received while inflicted with Spirit Chains (Corrosion).
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|-
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| {{DemonIcon|Inanna|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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| +500 to Mag DEF. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to Magic damage taken.
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|-
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| {{DemonIcon|Kali A|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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| While the one with this skill is alive, all Cursed enemies will receive the following effect: -50% to Healing skill effectiveness, +15% to damage received.
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|-
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| {{DemonIcon|Masakado B|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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| While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received while inflicted with Spirit Chains of Suppression.
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|-
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| {{DemonIcon|Old Ones|size=32px}}
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| Panel 2
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| While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +20% to damage received while inflicted with Gloom.
 
|}
 
|}
  
===Skills that apply reverse damage reduction to self===
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===Skills that apply anti-damage reduction to self===
 
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Latest revision as of 00:52, 17 November 2024

Anti-damage reduction (ADR), also known as reverse damage reduction (RDR) (no official name), refers to effects that apply a negative amount of damage reduction, causing the affected demon to take more damage. This is not the same as normal damage boosts.

Mechanics

Anti-damage reduction is applied at the end of the damage formula, where it is additive to normal damage reduction. For more details, see Damage Formula.

  • Due to this, anti-damage reduction can directly counteract normal damage reduction.
    • For example: if an enemy has a passive that grants -80% Elec damage taken, and your party has Botis.jpg Botis (applies +40% damage taken), then that partially cancels the enemy's passive (-80 + 40). This results in a total of -40% damage taken instead.
  • Normal damage boosts (such as Elec Amp) cannot counteract damage reduction in any way.

Due to how the math works out, anti-damage reduction will result in higher damage output than an equivalent % of normal damage boosters.

  • For example: Suppose Elohim.jpg Elohim is in a party with Mithras.jpg Mithras. The 40% anti-damage reduction from Mithras's Covenant Bless results in more damage output than Elohim equipping 40% worth of damage boosts (such as Fire Amp (25%) + Fire Boost (15%)).

Skills that apply anti-damage reduction are usually phrased as affecting the damage the enemy takes/receives, rather than the amount of damage your party deals. For effects that increase the damage your party deals, see damage boost.

Appliers

Skills that apply anti-damage reduction to enemies

Type Name MP Cost Target Amount Conditional? Skill Points Exclusive?
Passive Passive Covenant Bless Passive All Targets All Targets 40% Fire/Light - - Mithras.jpg Mithras
Passive Passive Crawling Chaos Passive All Targets All Targets 25% Magic Enemies with Icon Gloom.png Gloom - Nyarlathotep.jpg Nyarlathotep
Passive Passive Dark Eclipse Voltage Passive All Targets All Targets 40% Elec - - Botis.jpg Botis
Passive Passive Hedonistic Reaper Passive All Targets All Targets 25% Physical Enemies with Icon Gloom.png Gloom - Guedhe.jpg Guedhe
Passive Passive Immortal Sea Serpent Passive All Targets All Targets (5 * X)% All Enemies with Spirit Chains (5% per type) - Hydra.jpg Hydra
Passive Passive Lady of the Lake Passive All Targets All Targets 40% Ice - - Vivian.jpg Vivian
Passive Passive Peerless Beauty Passive All Targets All Targets 30% All Enemies with an Ailment - Cleopatra.jpg Cleopatra
Passive Passive Tempestuous Malice Passive All Targets All Targets 30% All Enemies with an Ailment - Tiamat A.jpg Tiamat A
Passive Passive The Wings of Darkness Passive All Targets All Targets 20% All Enemies with Icon Decay.png Decay - Femto.jpg Femto
Passive Passive War Goddess Passive All Targets All Targets 20% All Enemies with Icon Spirit Chains of Corrosion.png Spirit Chains (Corrosion) - Morrighan.jpg Morrighan
Passive Passive Pure Maiden Passive All Targets All Targets 20% Critical Hits - Artemis.jpg Artemis

Demon Panels that apply anti-damage reduction to enemies

Demon Panel # Effect
Belial.jpg Belial Panel 3 +40% to Phys and Fire damage. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +30% to damage received while Cursed.
Cleopatra.jpg Cleopatra Panel 2 While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received while inflicted with Spirit Chains (Corrosion).
Inanna.jpg Inanna Panel 2 +500 to Mag DEF. While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to Magic damage taken.
Kali A.jpg Kali A Panel 2 While the one with this skill is alive, all Cursed enemies will receive the following effect: -50% to Healing skill effectiveness, +15% to damage received.
Masakado B.jpg Masakado B Panel 2 While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +15% to damage received while inflicted with Spirit Chains of Suppression.
Old Ones.jpg Old Ones Panel 2 While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies will receive the following effect: +20% to damage received while inflicted with Gloom.

Skills that apply anti-damage reduction to self

Type Name MP Cost Target Amount Skill Points Exclusive?
Passive Passive Berserker (Skill) Passive Self 20% All 18 -
Passive Passive Holy Immunity Passive Self 60% Fire - Ainz.jpg Ainz
Skill Effects
Attributes/Elements Phys PhysFire FireIce IceElec ElecForce ForceLight LightDark DarkAlmighty AlmightyMulti Multi Skills
Ailments Icon Bind.png BindIcon Charm.png CharmIcon Curse.png CurseIcon Mute.png MuteIcon Poison.png PoisonIcon Weak.png WeakStatus Ailment ResonanceCleric
Good Status Effects Icon Barrier.png BarrierIcon Charge.png ChargeIcon Concentrate.png ConcentrateIcon Critical.png MightIcon Lydia.png LydiaIcon Repel Magic.pngIcon Repel Almighty Magic.png Repel MagicIcon Repel Physical.pngIcon Repel Almighty Physical.png Repel PhysicalIcon Null Mortal.png Evade Mortal
Spirit Chains Icon Spirit Chains of Corrosion.png CorrosionIcon Spirit Chains of Indignation.png IndignationIcon Spirit Chains of Intimidation.png IntimidationIcon Spirit Chains of Salvation.png SalvationIcon Spirit Chains of Suppression.png Suppression
Other Special Effects Icon Youre Next.png You're NextIcon Revive Ban.png Revive BanIcon Zenith.png ZenithIcon Gloom.png GloomIcon Attribute Affinity Reinforcement.png Attribute Affinity ReinforcementIcon Elec Resistance Down 2.png Attribute affinity downIcon Fortify.png FortifyIcon Decay.png DecayIcon Malice.png Malice
Buffs Icon ATK Buff.png ATK BuffIcon DEF Buff.png DEF BuffIcon EVAC Buff.png EV/AC Buff
Debuffs Icon ATK Debuff.png ATK DebuffIcon DEF Debuff.png DEF DebuffIcon EVAC Debuff.png EV/AC Debuff
HP Max HPHealingSteal HP
MP Max MPNaturally recovered MPRecover MPSteal MPLose MPMP cost upMP cost down
Stats Strength (Str)Magic (Mag)Vitality (Vit)Agility (Agi)Luck (Luk)
Offense PierceMortalFractional DamageFixed DamageAccuracy and EvasionCritical hitWeak pointStandard AttackDamage boostReverse damage reduction
Defense Pierce NegationBulwarkCounterDeath Prevention (Endures)RevivalReverse damage boostDamage reductionPreferential TargetSuper Reaction
Other Press TurnRemnantsPassingBattle SpeedTurn orderBoost LevelParty Effect
Non-Combative Trap NegationIcon Tome of Exp 12h.png EXP UpIcon Macca.png Macca Up