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{{TierData|demon=Anat|pvebest1=Purple|pvpbest1=Purple|pvpbest2=Clear | {{TierData|demon=Anat|pvebest1=Purple|pvpbest1=Purple|pvpbest2=Clear | ||
|pve=4 | |pve=4 | ||
− | |offensive= | + | |offensive=5|defensive=4 |
|pro=*[[Thunderstorm]] is an extremely powerful piercing AOE. | |pro=*[[Thunderstorm]] is an extremely powerful piercing AOE. | ||
*High MAG stat, passive skills and Panels further her AOE DPS. | *High MAG stat, passive skills and Panels further her AOE DPS. | ||
*[[Killer Impulse]] may add another layer of damage. | *[[Killer Impulse]] may add another layer of damage. | ||
− | * Red gives [[Thunder Reign]] which can circumvent Elec Anti-Pierce such as [[Rama]] + [[Mother Harlot]]. Note that it does not pierce though! | + | *Red gives [[Thunder Reign]] which can circumvent Elec Anti-Pierce such as [[Rama]] + [[Mother Harlot]]. Note that it does not pierce though! |
|con=*Force weakness | |con=*Force weakness | ||
− | * | + | *Panel 2 is Mandatory for Turn 1 [[Thunderstorm]]. |
*Expensive to fuse and only available in clear. Colored variants are Gacha exclusive. | *Expensive to fuse and only available in clear. Colored variants are Gacha exclusive. | ||
*Only [[Thunderstorm]] and [[Killer Impulse]] have pierce. | *Only [[Thunderstorm]] and [[Killer Impulse]] have pierce. | ||
+ | *Requires additional MP Support when going against [[Alice A]] teams | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{TierData|demon=Baal|pvebest1=Purple|pvpbest1=Purple|pvpbest2=Red | {{TierData|demon=Baal|pvebest1=Purple|pvpbest1=Purple|pvpbest2=Red | ||
|pve=4 | |pve=4 | ||
− | |offensive= | + | |offensive=5|defensive=4 |
|pro=*[[Tempest]] deals high piercing AOE damage and autocasts [[Sukunda]]. | |pro=*[[Tempest]] deals high piercing AOE damage and autocasts [[Sukunda]]. | ||
*[[Rains of Canaan]] provides a teamwide Force damage boost. | *[[Rains of Canaan]] provides a teamwide Force damage boost. | ||
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*Expensive to fuse and only available in clear. Colored variants are Gacha exclusive. | *Expensive to fuse and only available in clear. Colored variants are Gacha exclusive. | ||
*Only has pierce through [[Tempest]]. | *Only has pierce through [[Tempest]]. | ||
+ | *Requires additional MP Support when going against [[Alice A]] teams | ||
}} | }} | ||
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*Requires damage booster transfers kit provides none. | *Requires damage booster transfers kit provides none. | ||
*Auto-Charge does not activate when waves are cleared in PVE! This reduces his damage potential in auto-farming PVE greatly! | *Auto-Charge does not activate when waves are cleared in PVE! This reduces his damage potential in auto-farming PVE greatly! | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Cybele --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Cybele|pvebest1=Clear|pvebest2=|pvebest3=|pvpbest1=Clear | ||
+ | |pve=3 | ||
+ | |offensive=2|defensive=2 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *High Magic stat. [[Magna Mater]] and innate [[Trisagion]] + [[Maragidyne]] make her an extremely good Fire caster. | ||
+ | *Excellent Panel 1. | ||
+ | *[[Magna Mater]] provides a team-wide Fire damage boost, incredible for [[Democalypse]]. | ||
+ | *Innate [[Merciless Blow]] further increases her [[Democalypse]] potential. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Heavy fire specialisation + lack of Fire Pierce means she will struggle against Fire NDR. | ||
+ | *In PVP, [[Fire Pierce (weak)]] is insufficient due to the popularity of [[Asherah]] and [[Rama]] | ||
+ | *Expensive multi-fusion that requires clear [[Asherah]]. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Daisoujou --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Daisoujou|pvebest1=Any|pvpbest1=Purple | ||
+ | |pve=5 | ||
+ | |offensive=5|defensive=5 | ||
+ | |pro=*[[Preach]] makes him immune to all ailments and will punish enemy teams attempting to use Charm. [[Cleansing Shout]] is an Ailment and Debuff Cleanse packed into one skill. This makes him the best Counter to Ailments. | ||
+ | **Particularly good against the high Tier [[Alice A]] Defense Teams. | ||
+ | *Good stats, no weaknesses and perfect base kit allow freedom in builds. | ||
+ | *Can work as a bulky tank, evasion tank, healer and/or revive support based on build. | ||
+ | *Very useful for [[Brands of Sin]] Sloth 11 auto-runs. | ||
+ | |con=*Is a hard support unit, relies on transfer skills to offer anything outside cleanse. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Dante --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Dante☆|pvebest1=Any|pvpbest1=Purple|pvpbest2=Red | ||
+ | |pve=2 | ||
+ | |offensive=2|defensive=2 | ||
+ | |pro=*High Str plus Auto-Rebellion from [[Rapid Shot]] makes him a good Phys Sweeper. | ||
+ | *Very bulky with no weaknesses. | ||
+ | *[[Million Stab]] is a multihit AOE skill, breaking [[Endure]]s and piercing while in Might. | ||
+ | *Pairs well with [[Hell Biker]] for free Rebellion setup. | ||
+ | |con=*Low AGI and LUK affects his accuracy. | ||
+ | *Will not autocast Rebellion if any of his Rapid Shot misses. | ||
+ | *[[Million Stab]] is high MP-cost and need difficult setup to Pierce. | ||
+ | *This is bad in PVP to the point it's probably better to use [[Megaton Raid]] and a transferred [[Hades Blast]] in a [[Hell Gongen]] Teams than playing him as it was intended with [[Rapid Shot]] and [[Million Stab]]. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Fafnir --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Fafnir|pvebest1=Teal|pvebest2=|pvebest3=|pvpbest1=Teal | ||
+ | |pve=1 | ||
+ | |offensive=1|defensive=1 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *Innate [[Drain Phys]] makes him usable in [[Drain Teams]]. | ||
+ | *[[Dragon Sense]] provides him additional accuracy and evasion. | ||
+ | *[[Golden Greed]] highly increases poison damage, making him a very good against Celestial Gui Xian. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *In PvP [[Drain Teams]], can at most be a mediocre support. | ||
+ | *2 Weaknesses. | ||
+ | *Ailments fall flat in late PvE because of inflated enemy stats. | ||
+ | *Hard countered by Ailment Cleansers like [[Daisoujou]] in PVP. | ||
+ | *Comprehensively outclassed by [[Pale Rider]] as Poison caster. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Frost Ace --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Frost Ace|pvebest1=Purple|pvpbest1=Purple | ||
+ | |pve=3 | ||
+ | |offensive=3|defensive=3 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *Very good Ice Nuker with built-in [[Ice Boost]] and [[Master Assassin]] in purple. | ||
+ | *Good Ice sweeper with [[Mabufula]] in red | ||
+ | *[[Vengeful Frost Fist]] is a heavy hitting Ice-element Physical attack that can Crit and autocasts Rebellion on hit. This allows him to crit infinitely at the cost of a measly 4 MP. | ||
+ | *[[Icy Rage]] provides a teamwide Ice damage buff, incredible for [[Democalypse]]. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *No added accuracy in his kit. Requires Accuracy investment as [[Vengeful Frost Fist]] is prone to missing. | ||
+ | *[[Vengeful Frost Fist]] cannot hit through [[Tetrakarn]] nor any Ice NDR without P3 or [[Ice Pierce (weak)]]. | ||
+ | *Without Panel 3, his PVP rating would be worth only 5 or less. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Gabriel --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Gabriel|pvebest1=Red|pvebest2=Teal|pvpbest1=Teal | ||
+ | |pve=4 | ||
+ | |offensive=4|defensive=4 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *When combined with two other Herald or Divine demons, [[God's Word]] dishes out massive damage even before battle really begins. | ||
+ | *Chain effects do not consume press turns even when hitting NDR. | ||
+ | *Innate Pierce with decent Magic + Revive makes for a good unique Skill. | ||
+ | *Part of a very strong PVP strategy: [[Archangels]] Team. | ||
+ | *Good for PVE content like [[Brands of Sin]] Sloth, the general story and [[Aura Gate]] (note that her passive will kill demons before they have a chance to talk) | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Needs a specific team built fully around her. | ||
+ | *Reflected [[God's Word]] will damage her because of innate pierce. Beware of [[Alilat]] and [[Atavaka]]. | ||
+ | *The Metagame is filled with teams tanky enough to survive [[Archangels]] teams. | ||
+ | *Requires additional MP Support when going against [[Alice A]] teams | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Garuda --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Garuda|pvebest1=Any|pvpbest1=Red|pvpbest2=Purple|pvpbest3=Yellow | ||
+ | |pve=4 | ||
+ | |offensive=3|defensive=3 | ||
+ | |pro=*One of the fastest and most flexible demons in the game. Good set of resistances plus battlespeed makes him useful for most PVE content including [[Aura Gate]] and [[Brands of Sin]] Vanity 11. | ||
+ | *[[Auto-Rakunda]]: excellent offensive skill for Turn 1 Teams. | ||
+ | *[[Vahana]], excellent defensive passive. Allows dodge-tank builds or even cleric ones if [[Prayer]] is transferred. | ||
+ | *Red gives 6-MP [[Maragidyne]], allowing him a Turn 1 nuke. | ||
+ | *Yellow makes him more support-oriented with [[Fog Breath]]. | ||
+ | |con=*Doesn't have innate [[Speedster]]: you must use a transfer slot for it. | ||
+ | *Very low bulk and has an Ice weakness. | ||
+ | *Is outclassed by [[Hresvelgr]] in PVP Turn 1 Teams. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Garuda A--> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Garuda A|pvebest1=Purple|pvebest2=Yellow|pvpbest1=Yellow|pvpbest2=Red|pvpbest3=Purple | ||
+ | |pve=3 | ||
+ | |offensive=4|defensive=4 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *Good Magic and Agi Stats | ||
+ | *Innate Force pierce in [[Brilliant Wings]] and discount [[Mazandyne]] in Red. | ||
+ | *[[Brilliant Wings]] fits well in an evasion based team together with [[Nekomata A]]. | ||
+ | *[[Gale Talon]] is very damaging against lone targets like Bosses, making him very potent for [[Democalypse]]. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Needs a team built around him to be really effective | ||
+ | *Useless against Magic teams | ||
+ | *[[Gale Talon]] takes time to reach full potential, reducing his T1 potential. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Gogmagog --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Gogmagog|pvebest1=Teal|pvpbest1=Teal | ||
+ | |pve=4 | ||
+ | |offensive=3|defensive=3 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *Very high bulk and innate [[Earthquake]] lets him hit hard off that bulk. | ||
+ | *Three weaknesses makes him a good partner for [[Orcus]]. | ||
+ | *Less competition for Brands compared to your other demons, as he relies on PDEF for damage. | ||
+ | *Panels let him play a more support-oriented role, providing team-wide bonuses as long as he is alive. Crit resistance is especially valuable in the current PVP meta, which has heavy crit emphasis. | ||
+ | *[[Repel Phys]] in Teal pairs well with [[Alilat]] or [[Atavaka]] as an Anti-Pierce. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Abysmal AGI means he misses. A lot. | ||
+ | *Added damage from Weakness can be too much for his passive heal. | ||
+ | *No innate pierce and is a bad choice for [[Hell Gongen]] due to his AGI. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Guan Yu --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Guan Yu|pvebest1=Red|pvebest2=Teal|pvebest3=|pvpbest1=Purple|pvpbest2=Teal | ||
+ | |pve=5 | ||
+ | |offensive=5|defensive=5 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *No weaknesses and high VIT stats make him very tanky, especially with Life Brands. | ||
+ | *High STR and native Phys Pierce make him a physical powerhouse. | ||
+ | *[[Loyal God of War]] refunds MP and heals him on a kill, giving him insane amounts of self-sustain. | ||
+ | *Innate [[Savage Glee]] lets him Crit and generate Press Turns effectively, especially if given [[Epitome of Carnage]] or paired with Crit boosters like [[Asura Lord]] or [[Kartikeya]]. | ||
+ | *[[Null Mortal]] in Purple, [[Drain Phys]] for pairing with [[Rama]] in Teal, Red for pure PvE. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Low Agi stat means he will have accuracy issues. [[Dragon Blade]]'s chain effect will not activate if it misses on the first target. | ||
+ | *Highly dependant on the first kill for tempo. Failing to secure the first kill will result in him not having enough MP for the next turn. | ||
+ | *Only has ST skills unless in Red, which reduces his overall PvP usefulness | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Guts --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Guts|pvebest1=Purple|pvpbest1=Purple | ||
+ | |pve=5 | ||
+ | |offensive=5|defensive=5 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *Very high Crit rate thanks to [[Savage Glee]] and [[The Struggler]]. | ||
+ | *[[Dragon Slayer]] does insane AOE Piercing Physical damage and bypasses [[Endure]]-type skills. It can also be cast Turn 1 due to its low MP cost. | ||
+ | *[[Butcher]] in purple further augments his damage. | ||
+ | *Excellent set of Panels that give him access to a Piercing Fire AOE chain, Phys Pierce and more damage. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Having no innate ST skills means he will be walled by [[Drain Teams]]. It is recommended to pair him with demons like [[Alice]] to eliminate Phys Anti-Pierce demons that prevent him from sweeping. | ||
+ | *No natural Pierce outside P2 might cause issues when out of MP. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Hecate --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Hecate|pvebest1=Purple|pvpbest1=Purple | ||
+ | |pve=4 | ||
+ | |offensive=5|defensive=4 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *[[Hell's Trivia]] is a cheap, hard-hitting spell that also functions as an [[Endure]] breaker. Coupled with her respectable Mag stat and [[Dark Enhancement]] in purple, she can be built as a powerful dark mage. | ||
+ | *[[Null Bind]] and [[Lunar Awakening]] make her immune to ailments. | ||
+ | *Transferring [[Prayer]] or [[Silent Prayer]] makes her a cleanser with offensive ability. | ||
+ | *Innate [[Repel Dark]] means she can't be sniped by [[Alice]] if paired with [[Alilat]] or [[Atavaka]]. This hard-counters people who use [[Ailment Team]]s for Random PVP Battles. | ||
+ | *Amazing Panels: with P2 you don't worry about running out of MP. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Not very bulky. Light weakness is bad against [[Archangels]]. | ||
+ | *[[Lunar Awakening]] only triggers at the end of the enemy's turn. This makes her useless for [[Brands of Sin]] Sloth 11, as the ailments trigger at the beginning of the turn. | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} |
Revision as of 11:26, 19 August 2020
Overview
- This is the beta page for proposed tier list overhaul
Rating
- The PVP Tier List compares demons in their Panel 3 form, with their skills leveled up, with good brands, and assumes the best transfer skills.
- However a Tier List comparing demons solely in their Panel 0/1/2 forms would not be largely different from this one.
- Demons who depend on certain panels to shine will have this noted in their Cons for clarity, along with their score rating at Panel X.
- On the other hand, The PVE rating takes into account the difficulty of raising the demon (Demons hard to Panel while needing them etc.)
- Neither the PVE nor the PVP grades take into account Democalypse. See Democalypse for a Democ Tier List.
- PVP ratings are defined as such
- Tier 5: These demons are a central force in the current Metagame.
- Tier 4: These demons have a more niche role but can still thrive very well with proper support in the current Meta.
- Tier 3: These demons are not very suited for the current Meta. They can still work but will require a lot of support.
- Tier 2: These demons do not work well outside low-rank PVP (Gold 1 and below).
- Tier 1: These demons are ill-suited for PVP, regardless of rank.
- PVE ratings are defined as such
- Tier 5: These demons can work for all PVE content (story, AG, Kiwami, BoS etc)
- Tier 4: These demons are less universal but can trivialize specific PVE content.
- Tier 3: These demons can be used for most early-mid game content, but tend to fall-off at higher difficulties.
- Tier 2: These demons do not contribute much outside early-game PVE.
- Tier 1: These demons are ill-suited for PVE.
Last Updates
- 19/08/2020 - Tier list overhaul beta
5 star Tier List
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Alice |
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Alice A |
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Alilat |
4 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Amaterasu |
4 | 2 | 2 | ||
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Ananta |
1 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Anat |
4 | 5 | 4 | ||
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Asherah |
3 | 4 | 4 | ||
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Asura |
4 | 2 | 2 | ||
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Asura Lord |
4 | 4 | 5 | ||
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Atavaka |
4 | 4 | 5 | ||
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Baal |
4 | 5 | 4 | ||
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Barong |
Any | 4 | 2 | 2 | |
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Bayonetta☆ |
Any | 2 | 2 | 2 | |
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Belial |
4 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Black Frost |
Any | Any | 3 | 2 | 2 |
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Black Rider |
2 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Cu Chulainn |
3 | 2 | 2 | ||
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Cu Chulainn A |
4 | 4 | 4 | ||
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Cybele |
3 | 2 | 2 | ||
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Daisoujou |
Any | 5 | 5 | 5 | |
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Dante☆ |
Any | 2 | 2 | 2 | |
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Fafnir |
1 | 1 | 1 | ||
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Frost Ace |
3 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Gabriel |
4 | 4 | 4 | ||
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Garuda |
Any | 4 | 3 | 3 | |
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Garuda A |
3 | 4 | 4 | ||
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Gogmagog |
4 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Guan Yu |
5 | 5 | 5 | ||
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Guts |
5 | 5 | 5 | ||
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Hecate |
4 | 5 | 4 | ||
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See also
- Skill List
- Democalypse contains a Tier List for Democalypse.
- PVP Team Guide for knowledge about how to combine these Top Tier demons.