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*Low Magic and Bulk is inconvenient as a healer/support. | *Low Magic and Bulk is inconvenient as a healer/support. | ||
*PvP is too fast for healings that are not passives to be useful. | *PvP is too fast for healings that are not passives to be useful. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Bayo --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Bayonetta☆|pvebest1=Purple|pvebest2=|pvebest3=|pvpbest1=Any | ||
+ | |pve=2 | ||
+ | |offensive=2|defensive=2 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *[[Madama Stomp]] levels and [[Savage Glee]] in purple give her enormous crit rates. | ||
+ | *[[Madama Stomp]] autocasts an Almighty attack that also charms whenever she lands a crit. Deals decent damage after being buffed to scale off her PATK. | ||
+ | *Recent buffs have made her a lot more viable. Panel 2 in particular gives her Pierce which she desperately needs. | ||
+ | *[[Gomorrah (B)]] has high base damage and crit chance, letting you delete an enemy and charm the rest of the team. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *[[Gomorrah (B)]] takes two turns to charge: impossible to use T1. | ||
+ | *Difficult to build due to [[Gomorrah (B)]] scaling off both PATK and MATK. | ||
+ | *Mediocre overall stats, bad bulk. | ||
+ | *Absolutely requires at least P2 to have any relevancy in PVP: get a PVP rating much lower than 6 if not paneled. | ||
+ | *No longer meme :( | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Belial --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Belial|pvebest1=Purple|pvpbest1=Purple | ||
+ | |pve=4 | ||
+ | |offensive=3|defensive=3 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *[[Flames of Gomorrah]] is a hard hitting fire phys skill that pierces, crits and can be cast T1 even with War brands. [[Fire Amp]] in Purple makes it even deadlier. | ||
+ | *[[Sins of Sodom]] provides Fast-[[Debilitate]] if an enemy is cursed which pairs perfectly with the 80% curse-rate of [[Flames of Gomorrah]]. | ||
+ | *He pairs well with [[Nebiros]] who can curse before your turn. | ||
+ | *PvE enemies including Bosses are not immune to curse, making him an insane PvE Debuffer. | ||
+ | *Panel 2 allows him to Crit indefinitely. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Lack of ST gives him trouble with Fire Anti-Pierce like [[Atavaka]]-[[Vairocana]] or [[Rama]]-[[Surt]]. | ||
+ | *Ice weakness. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Black Frost --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Black Frost|pvebest1=Any|pvebest2=|pvebest3=|pvpbest1=Any | ||
+ | |pve=3 | ||
+ | |offensive=2|defensive=2 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *High Magic stat and innate Pierce on [[Go to Hell!]] makes him a good magic sweeper. | ||
+ | *[[Curse of Anguish]] and Panels pair well with [[Yama]] who automatically curses everyone at the start of the Boss wave. | ||
+ | *[[Go to Hell!]] has a high Curse chance, which lets him setup for other curse-based sweepers like [[Alice A]]. | ||
+ | *Yellow gains access to [[Concentrate]] to further increase his sweeping potential. | ||
+ | *His innate [[Mabufudyne]] and [[Ice Amp]] (in Purple) is excellent for [[Democalypse]]. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Light Weakness | ||
+ | *[[Go to Hell!]] has low base power and does not gain damage on level up. | ||
+ | *His damage output is below average and needs his Curse gimmick. | ||
+ | *Dark element AOEs are severely countered by the PVP Meta ([[Masakado]] + [[Rama]] or [[Atavaka]] + [[Hecate]]) | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Black Rider --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Black Rider|pvebest1=Teal|pvebest2=|pvebest3=|pvpbest1=Purple | ||
+ | |pve=2 | ||
+ | |offensive=3|defensive=3 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *[[Soul Divide]] punishes healing by dealing Fractional damage based on their current health. Useful in [[Brands of Sin]] Vanity stages where healing is abundant. | ||
+ | *[[Famine]] deals fractional damage and saps MP at the end of enemies turn. | ||
+ | *Best used to deal with enemies that have auto-healing such as P2 [[Vishnu]]. | ||
+ | *Decent Magic stat and good Panels can make him a strong Ice mage. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *[[Soul Divide]] damage is based on Current Health and cannot kill targets. | ||
+ | *Healing is not very common rendering his utility niche at best. | ||
+ | *Needs Panels (especially P2) to be an effective Mage. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Cu Chulainn --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Cu Chulainn|pvebest1=Purple|pvpbest1=Purple | ||
+ | |pve=3 | ||
+ | |offensive=2|defensive=2 | ||
+ | |pro=*One of the budget pierce sweeper, he can be fused cheaply through 4x4 fusions. | ||
+ | *One of the best demons to fuse early: trivializes early PVE. | ||
+ | *Panels maintain his relevance late game. He's cheap to Panel. | ||
+ | *Innate [[Savage Glee]] and powerful [[Gae Bolg]] mean you can build him as a Phys attacker and he will be good for Phys [[Democalypse]]. | ||
+ | *Low AGI makes him useable in Intimidating Stance teams. | ||
+ | |con=*High MP costs, cannot sweep Turn 1 in PVP unless Panel 3. | ||
+ | *Purple [[Archetypes|Archetype]] mandatory for PVP as he needs [[Force Pierce]]. | ||
+ | *Mediocre Magic stat: needs passives to be transferred for decent damage. | ||
+ | *No Single-Target attack: he will have trouble against Anti-Force-Pierce like [[Rama]] + [[Susano-o A]], popular in PVP. | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | <!-- Cu Chulainn A --> | ||
+ | {{TierData|demon=Cu Chulainn A|pvebest1=Teal|pvpbest1=Teal|pvpbest2=Purple | ||
+ | |pve=4 | ||
+ | |offensive=4|defensive=4 | ||
+ | |pro= | ||
+ | *Has full pierce on two elements. | ||
+ | *[[Barbed Spear]] deals three separate hits, allowing it to function as an [[Endure]] breaker. He is a good candidate for [[Hero Masakado T1]] | ||
+ | *Auto-Charge at end of turn allows him to deal massive damage if he is not taken out. | ||
+ | *Teal has [[Drain Phys]] to pair with [[Rama]] in [[Drain Teams]], increasing his survivability which is needed if you want to use Auto-Charge. | ||
+ | |con= | ||
+ | *Needs to survive an entire round to make use of Auto-Charge. | ||
+ | *Missing just one of [[Barbed Spear]]'s 12 hits results in lost press turns. | ||
+ | *Requires damage booster transfers kit provides none. | ||
+ | *Auto-Charge does not activate when waves are cleared in PVE! This reduces his damage potential in auto-farming PVE greatly! | ||
}} | }} | ||
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Revision as of 11:11, 19 August 2020
Overview
- This is the beta page for proposed tier list overhaul
Rating
- The PVP Tier List compares demons in their Panel 3 form, with their skills leveled up, with good brands, and assumes the best transfer skills.
- However a Tier List comparing demons solely in their Panel 0/1/2 forms would not be largely different from this one.
- Demons who depend on certain panels to shine will have this noted in their Cons for clarity, along with their score rating at Panel X.
- On the other hand, The PVE rating takes into account the difficulty of raising the demon (Demons hard to Panel while needing them etc.)
- Neither the PVE nor the PVP grades take into account Democalypse. See Democalypse for a Democ Tier List.
- PVP ratings are defined as such
- Tier 5: These demons are a central force in the current Metagame.
- Tier 4: These demons have a more niche role but can still thrive very well with proper support in the current Meta.
- Tier 3: These demons are not very suited for the current Meta. They can still work but will require a lot of support.
- Tier 2: These demons do not work well outside low-rank PVP (Gold 1 and below).
- Tier 1: These demons are ill-suited for PVP, regardless of rank.
- PVE ratings are defined as such
- Tier 5: These demons can work for all PVE content (story, AG, Kiwami, BoS etc)
- Tier 4: These demons are less universal but can trivialize specific PVE content.
- Tier 3: These demons can be used for most early-mid game content, but tend to fall-off at higher difficulties.
- Tier 2: These demons do not contribute much outside early-game PVE.
- Tier 1: These demons are ill-suited for PVE.
Last Updates
- 19/08/2020 - Tier list overhaul beta
5 star Tier List
Name | Best Archetype(s) | PVE | PVP | ||
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Alice |
4 | 4 | 4 | ||
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Alice A |
5 | 5 | 5 | ||
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Alilat |
4 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Amaterasu |
4 | 2 | 2 | ||
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Ananta |
1 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Anat |
4 | 4 | 5 | ||
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Asherah |
3 | 4 | 4 | ||
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Asura |
4 | 2 | 2 | ||
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Asura Lord |
4 | 4 | 5 | ||
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Atavaka |
4 | 4 | 5 | ||
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Baal |
4 | 4 | 5 | ||
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Barong |
Any | 4 | 2 | 2 | |
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Bayonetta☆ |
Any | 2 | 2 | 2 | |
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Belial |
4 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Black Frost |
Any | Any | 3 | 2 | 2 |
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Black Rider |
2 | 3 | 3 | ||
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Cu Chulainn |
3 | 2 | 2 | ||
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Cu Chulainn A |
4 | 4 | 4 | ||
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See also
- Skill List
- Democalypse contains a Tier List for Democalypse.
- PVP Team Guide for knowledge about how to combine these Top Tier demons.