User:KnockerInDx2

Hi

• Favorite Team so far: Ailment
• Favorite demon (Dx2): Pales
• Favorite demon (every game): ???
• Favorite character (Dx2): Megakin
• Favorite character (every game): ???
• Favorite waifu (Dx2): Rika
• Favorite waifu (every game): Pixie (SMT III)
• Games played: Shin Megami Tensei I, Shin Megami Tensei: Liberation Dx2, Shin Megami Tensei III
• Games I'm planning to play: Raido-o Kuzunoha saga, Persona saga (presumably starting with "Persona 2: Innocent Sin" or "Persona 3"), Shin Megami Tensei II, Shin Megami Tensei IV (both), Shin Megami Tensei V
• What I have to say:
  • Why is Mothman a meme?
  • Jack Frost was nice, then he got more avatars than Shiva.
  • That of Alice and the Counts is the best part of SMT I... if not the only beautiful one.
  • Trixie must be summonable in a game sooner or later.
  • This game has too many banner exclusives!!! Like, half of them could just be gatcha-only!
  • The moment Raido-o Kuzunoha is added in the game, I'll lose a lot of money.
  • I'll never understand why the player's nickname has been changed from 'Rookie' to 'Newbie'. The former was nicer.

Reference for Tier table

Name	Best Archetype(s)		PVE	PVP		Democalypse
	PVE	PVP		Offense	Defense	Prelim	Boss
Alice			?	?	?	?	?
Pros	Pros of the demon
Cons	Cons of the demon
Notes	Useful (or funny) notes about the demon

Personal Draft about 3★-and-less Demons

(The following is just to have fun or for personal use and is not to be intended as an official guide on the Wiki)

Everyone has that 1/2/3★ demon they have a fondness for, thus desiring to bring them up to 5★ or even 6★. The following is a "guide" intended to help people identify each demon's strengths, weaknesses and best colors, other than the role and the use they might have. It also helps identifying those demons which are actually worth evolving.

Now, those are the reasons you might want to invest in one of those demons:

• You actually very like the demon. Or it's meme.
• The demon can be actually useful.
• They are cheaper to invest in comparing to 4★ and 5★ demons, especially regarding skill points (you can just use copies of the same demon rather than wasting Yasake Magatamas). Unfortunately, the investment for Evolution is unvaried (or even more expensive, in a certain sense).

The Tiers are as following: T: This demon is trash. No reason you should invest in them; actually, they might end up dissatisfying you even if you like them.

1: Useless demons, but not as dissatisfying. They can still have some use for fun.

2: Weak demons which are more likely to do some job in a team, usually due to good stats or skills. They are still useless compared to 4★.

3: Demons with a nice, usually thanks to the good combination of stats and/or good skills. They are of some use in given contexts, and might even make for early cheap PvP teams. They are the equivalent of 2-Tier demons in the normal list.

4: Demons that are actually useful, at least in given contexts. They are nice for early/mid PvE content, and might even make for early cheap PvP teams. It's always better to keep at least one of those demons. They are equivalent of 2-Tier demons of high use/3-Tier demons in the normal list

5: Actually useful demons, who make easier a lot of PvE content. They are not particularly better at PvP than 4-Tier demons, though. They are the equivalent of 3-Tier demons... or even 4-Tiers, in particular, specific cases.

1★ Demons

Agathion

Agathion	Best Archetype(s)	Tier	Elements
			Weak	Normal	Resist	Null	Drain	Repel
		1	Ice, Dark	Phys, Force, Light	Fire	-	-	-
Skills							Reverse Fusion
Innate Transferable	Innate Normal						This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials
Cursedi	Zio	Mazio	Heat Wave	Mutudi	Luck Amp I	Resist Dark
6★ Stats								AI
HP	Vit	PATK	MATK	PDEF	MDEF	Agi	Lu	Attack
1206	178	493	645	564	600	105	140
Pros		Good HP and Vitality helping its survivability. Acceptable MATK for a 1★.
Cons		2 weaknesses, both very bad ones for PvE Very low Agi. No good skills other than Zio.
Suggestions		The best use you can do of it is probably running him as a Healer-Supporter that can occasionally exploit Elec weaknesses with Zio. Transfer it Diarama and a support skill, likewise Tarunda or Rakukaja (or Samrecarm). If you use Spell Slots to cover even one of its weaknesses it will be completely useless, so don't. Just don't use him in stages where enemies use Ice and Dark skills.
Notes		Technically, its best color would be Teal, but only Clear and maybe Red (if it is given for Eclipse events) are available.

Apsaras

Apsaras	Best Archetype(s)	Tier	Elements
			Weak	Normal	Resist	Null	Drain	Repel
		2	Fire	Elec, Force, Light, Dark	Ice	-	-	-
Skills							Reverse Fusion
Innate Transferable	Innate Normal						STILL SEARCHING
Posumudi	Bufu	Diara	Bufula	Mecharmdi	Agility Amp I	Resist Elec
6★ Stats								AI
HP	Vit	PATK	MATK	PDEF	MDEF	Agi	Lu	Heal
1028	140	510	687	527	569	115	140
Pros		Decent MAG for a 1★. Discounted Diara in Clear or Bufula in Red are both good skills.
Cons		Weak to Fire, and most weak-to-Ice units are Fire users. Low Agi
Suggestions		Her MATK is low, but high enough to still do a nice job as a mage. Plus her awakening skills are pretty versatile, giving her good flexibility. You can choose to run a Mage-Healer in Clear or a full Mage in Red. If Clear you might still want to give her Bufula from Forneus, while Mabufula is not recommended as she still won't do a lot of damage. Resist Fire is mandatory. Other good transfers are Samrecarm, Mediara or -kaja/-nda skills (which one depends if you want to run an offensive or defensive build). If you run a full Mage in Red give her Ice Boost instead. I'd even suggest Recovery Boost for Clear but, you know, Jeanne d'Arc isn't exactly fusable.
Notes

Azumi

Azumi	Best Archetype(s)	Tier	Elements
			Weak	Normal	Resist	Null	Drain	Repel
		T	Elec	Phys, Fire, Force, Light, Dark	Ice	-	-	-
Skills							Reverse Fusion
Innate Transferable	Innate Normal						This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials
Paraladi	Bufu	Ice Breath	Mabufu	Dia	Life Bonus	Resist Force
6★ Stats								AI
HP	Vit	PATK	MATK	PDEF	MDEF	Agi	Lu	Heal
896	112	565	603	509	518	147	137
Pros		Discounted Ice Breath in Clear is niche Agi is good enough to allow him (her? them) to be a Cleric
Cons		Weak to Elec Discounted Ice Breath is a wasted skill, because of their sub-optimal MAG and their role as a Support Which is destroyed by their low Vit Which relies completely on transfers Which is limited to a "-kaja/-nda"/"Samrecarm" fodder Heal AI but no healing skills like what the hell To be fair that's probably to prioritize Paraladi, but AI is already supposed to that
Suggestions		Just go for the basic kit (Samrecarm+Heals/Buffs/Debuffs). Consider giving them Life Brands, because their survivability is hindered by their low Vit, and you need them to die after using Samrecarm. Obviously you can also go full Buff-Debuff if you think Samrecarm would be useless on them. You might still want to take advantage of the discounted Ice Breath and to run them as a full Mage against specific bosses. In this case, transfer Ice Boost and another support skill (likely Tarukaja or Rakunda). Consider that they are still a sidekick, though: do not build your entire strategy around him.
Notes

Bicorn

Bicorn	Best Archetype(s)	Tier	Elements
			Weak	Normal	Resist	Null	Drain	Repel
		2	Force	Phys, Fire, Ice, Elec, Light	-	Dark	-	-
Skills							Reverse Fusion
Innate Transferable	Innate Normal						Any 3★ Fairy/Vile+3 Slimes
Lunge	Agi	Maragi	Heat Wave	Charmdi	Hellish Mask	Resist Light
6★ Stats								AI
HP	Vit	PATK	MATK	PDEF	MDEF	Agi	Lu	Attack
1169	170	745	624	616	587	81	70
Pros		Very good PATK, especially for a 1★! Also good Vit, granting survivality even when going second. Null to Dark! Innate Lunge, a skill with boosted Crit Chance plus increased Hit Rate when levelled up, making up for his low Luck. Loves both girls and boys: that's how you do proper representation.
Cons		Abysmal Agi and Luck, meaning he will miss a lot, be hit a lot, be critted on a lot, and let's not even mention Ailments. Weak to Elec. No significative skills except Lunge, meaning the only thing he can do is hitting (and he is bad at that, too). Lunge is not as good as Cleave, since it doesn't gain Damage through level up.
Suggestions		One of the best 1★ demons for low-rarity teams due to his PATK and Null, but has a LOOOT of accuracy issues. The best skills to transfer are Good Aim, Bloody Glee, Cleave and Phys Boost. Bloody Glee+Phys Boost is a good combination if you want to try having a Phys attacker that occasionally crits giving you more turns. You can make up for Good Aim's absence by using Aim Brands; wether to apply War+Aim or double Aim is up to you. If you want to run him with Cleave, both Good Aim and Phys Boost are good options. Discounted Heat Wave in Red isn't a good choice because AOE Skill+bad accuracy enhances the possibility to miss. Purple's Hellish Mask is a better option.
Notes		Compared to Eligor, Bicorn has higher Agi and MATK (useful for exploiting Fire weaknesses), while Eligor has higher Vit, PATK, Hit ratio, DEF and Phys Resistance. But Eligor is also a white cisgender alpha male while Bicorn is a friendly bisexual black horse so make your choice.

Chagrin

Chagrin	Best Archetype(s)	Tier	Elements
			Weak	Normal	Resist	Null	Drain	Repel
		T	Fire	Phys, Ice, Force, Light, Dark	Elec	-	-	-
Skills							Reverse Fusion
Innate Transferable	Innate Normal						This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials
Weakdi	Zio	Shock	Mazio	Sukukaja	Agility Amp I	Resist Dark
6★ Stats								AI
HP	Vit	PATK	MATK	PDEF	MDEF	Agi	Lu	Support
1258	189	548	529	589	585	147	113
Pros		High Vit. Agi is high enough to make for a good Support. Sonichu meme.
Cons		Abysmal MATK that makes its kit of offensive spells completely useless (even the discounted Shock). Completely relies on transfers to do anything.
Suggestions		Transfer it Samrecarm and a "-kaja"/"-nda" spell. Give HP Brands with Guard/Shield subset. Do not transfer Healing skills, as its Mag is too low to properly heal. If you need it to act earlier, you can instead give it Lead or Speed subset, depending on what you need. Sonichu PvP Build Speedster+Elec Boost; Double Speed or Lead Brands (the important is it goes first); put it in your fastest team; confuse the enemy.
Notes		Technically the best color would be Yellow, but only Clear and maybe Red (in case it's given for Eclipse events) are available. Multi-fuse with Melchom and Slime to summon Chupacabra.

Chupacabra

Chupacabra	Best Archetype(s)	Tier	Elements
			Weak	Normal	Resist	Null	Drain	Repel
		3	Elec	Phys, Fire, Ice, Force, Light, Dark	-	-	-	-
Skills							Reverse Fusion
Innate Transferable	Innate Normal						Multi-Fusion: only available as Clear
Mazan	Stealth	Auto-Sukuka	Spirit Drain	Paraladi	Hellish Mask	Resist Elec
6★ Stats								AI
HP	Vit	PATK	MATK	PDEF	MDEF	Agi	Lu	Attack
821	96	588	550	497	488	170	161
Pros		Good Agi and decent Luck meaning it works well as a cheap Evasion Tank, even for early PvP. Stealth is a very good Unique which gives Endure and a passive bonus of +20% to Evasion when triggered. This bonus stacks with those provided by skills. Cheapest demon with an "Auto-" skill, in this case Auto-Sukuka, which further supports its role as an Evasion Tank. Due to its Luck, can even work as an Ailment inflicter.
Cons		Weak to Elec (and no Resistances). Completely useless against any enemy with skills that don't miss, due to the low Vit. Stealth's Endure effect must be triggered for the +20% Evade bonus to also be activated. Endure-like skills aren't very reliable in PvP anymore due to Mortal effects or even skills that just ignore them. Plus, Yoshitsune is used a lot in low-rank PvP, and his Unique Hassou Tobi is a Random attack with very high Hit Rate, which will also vanify your Endure-like effect if it hits you more than once (which is highly possile).
Suggestions		It's obviously best against Phys Teams, especially demons with low Accuracy like Gogmagog or Zaou-Gongen. Double Dodge Brands are the best choice, but you cans also mix Speed and Dodge if you need to. Using a Skill Slot to cover its weakness will greatly impact on its utility, and since it will be mostly used for targeted battles anyway, it's better not to. You can give it Endure/Enduring Soul to provide more survivability (since Endure-like effects stack). Other good skills are Sukunda/Acid Breath, Dodge or Mahamakajam. Giving it both Endure and Dodge means that it will mostly play a passive role. To run it in an Ailment Team, give it Speedster and Mahamakajam. You might be forced to give it Ailment Brands if you lack ways to inflict Weak to the enemy party. You can also run it in slow teams due to the utility of Auto-Sukuka. In this case, keep it Level 1 and give it Dodge, Endure and/or a Buff/Debuff skill as you see more fitting, considering it will probably die before its turn arrives. Technically, the best transfers to give it in this case are other "Auto-" skills, but are they really worth being spent on a 1★ demon with just occasional use? A different tactic for an Evasion Tank Chupacabra, especially in Defense Teams, is to give it Enduring Soul+Recarmdra and full Dodge Brands; but again, Recarmdra is a rare spell and one among the most useful, so same as above.
Notes		Bring it respect guys. This one is one of the "old glories", used a lot as an Evasion Tank/Support in the early days. Also cheer to the numerous Bronze Defense Teams that use one, single Chupacabra and literally no other demon. And no, I'm not only talking about inactive accounts.

Cu Sith

Cu Sith	Best Archetype(s)	Tier	Elements
			Weak	Normal	Resist	Null	Drain	Repel
		1	-	Phys, Fire, Ice, Elec, Force, Dark	-	Light	-	-
Skills							Reverse Fusion
Innate Transferable	Innate Normal						This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials
Cleave	Agi	Amrita	Sweet Bite	Tarukaja	Life Bonus	Resist Fire
6★ Stats								AI
HP	Vit	PATK	MATK	PDEF	MDEF	Agi	Lu	Support
896	112	663	565	532	509	147	112
Pros		1 Null and no weaknesses! Innate Support AI meaning you don't have to waste an AI Tendency Selector on it. Agi is high enough to work as a Cleric. Discounted Amrita in Clear means you'll be able to heal a demon from ailments each time you reach Cu Sith's turn. Good doggo.
Cons		Innate skills are useless to support a build as a Cleric. Despite having passable PATK for a 1★ demon, Cleave is not as useful as its magic counterparts. Low Luck means it has low resistance to ailments (which is bad since it is supposed to be a Cleric). Amrita can heal only one demon each use; unless you don't know what ailments you're going against or have problems in bringing more than one AOE "-di" Skill in your team, it's usually a worse option than the latter.
Suggestions		Transfer Hellish Mask to lower the chance of it getting hit by ailments and consequently heal your party (one by one). HP Brands increase its survivability, while Speed or Lead Brands as a subset help it having a better placement in the team. Concentrate on Ailment Resistance% as the secondary stat to boost. Assuming you need neither Speed nor Lead, Aim can assist in making Cleave more reliable. Samrecarm or a Buff/Debuff (likely Tarukaja, Sukukaja or Sukunda) are both good options for the second Skill Slot. For a more aggressive build, give it War and Aim brands and transfer Sukukaja. If you don't care about Ailment Resistance, you can give it a second Samrecarm/Buff/Debuff skill or Good Aim instead of Hellish Mask.
Notes		Technically, Yellow would also be a good (if not better) color for it, but the only available colors are Clear and maybe Red (assuming it's given for Eclipse - which is actually happened in the past). Main source of Cleave!

Eligor

Eligor	Best Archetype(s)	Tier	Elements
			Weak	Normal	Resist	Null	Drain	Repel
		2	Elec	Fire, Ice, Force, Light	Phys	Dark	-	-
Skills							Reverse Fusion
Innate Transferable	Innate Normal						Any 3★ Fairy/Vile demon + 2 Slimes + Cu Sith
Mudo	Mow Down	Endure	Fatal Sword	Rakukaja	Counter	Resist Light
6★ Stats								AI
HP	Vit	PATK	MATK	PDEF	MDEF	Agi	Lu	Attack
1263	190	729	567	634	595	65	104
Pros		High PATK/Strength for a 1★ demon. High Vit, and not only for a 1★! 1 Null! Phys resistance further supporting his role as a tank. Discounted Fatal Sword in Red.
Cons		Low Luck and abysmal Agi means that he will miss a LOT. It also means that he will be critted upon often, which weakens his role as a Tank. Weak to Elec. No innate single-target Phys skill except in Red. His basic skills are wasted on him.
Suggestions		One of the best 1★ demons for low-rarity teams due to his PATK, Vit and Null, but has a LOOOT of accuracy issues. However, he's a step forward than Bicorn, since he can double as a Tank. Not having any innate Physical single-target, Red archetype is almost mandatory (and the best one regardless). Counter/Retaliate is a good transfer which takes advantage of his good bulk and the fact he will be hit often. Wild Guess lowers the chance of receiving crit damage, while Good Aim improves his accuracy. For a completely offensive build, Good Aim+Phys Boost and War+Aim brands will do the trick. For a completely defensive build, run Counter/Retaliate+Wild Guess and HP+Guard Brands. Transfering Resist Elec is not a bad option if you need it. A hybrid build should be Red with any of the above combinations, depending on how much you want to prioritize offense over defense or vice versa. For example, you can go Counter/Retaliate+Good Aim and run War+Aim brands. Aim Brands as a subset must be the only constant. You can also use Yellow and forget offensive skills entirely, although this isn't suggested. In this case, you can go for the defensive build, or build him as a Support Tank (Samrecarm+"-kaja"/"-nda" Skill; Life+Guard/Shield; Resist Elec can subsitute any skill).
Notes		Compared to Bicorn, Eligor has higher Vit, PATK, Hit ratio, Luck, DEF and Phys Resistance, while Bicorn has higher Agi and MATK (useful for exploiting Fire weaknesses). Main source of Mudo!

Gremlin

Gremlin	Best Archetype(s)	Tier	Elements
			Weak	Normal	Resist	Null	Drain	Repel
		1	Fire, Force	Phys, Light, Dark	Ice, Elec	-	-	-
Skills							Reverse Fusion
Innate Transferable	Innate Normal						This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials
Zio	Bufu	Lunge	Mudo	Makajam	Mana Bonus	Resist Fire
6★ Stats								AI
HP	Vit	PATK	MATK	PDEF	MDEF	Agi	Lu
896	112	548	663	505	532	159	112
Pros		2 low-level Single Target Spells to exploit enemy weaknesses (3 if Red) In Red Mudo is discounted, meaning he can cast it every turn. Decent Agi. Passable MATK for a 1★.
Cons		He needs heavy investment to become decent... and demons of higher rarity would still surclass him by just existing. 2 weaknesses (if Teal, only weak to Force). Not as easily farmable as other 1★ demons. Low Vit lowers his survivality. His animation can induce epilectic attacks.
Suggestions		This guy is... hard. He is basically a very cheap version of Loki in Red, but a lot of things drag him down. For example, since he needs to concentrate on more than one elemental spell, the only way to improve its damage is by giving him Back Attack and Assassin. That's a lot of MAG investment (especially Assassin, which require to fuse the 5★ Susano-o). Another problem is his 2 weaknesses; paired with his low Vitality, things are very bad. This means he would need to have patched at least one of them... but since his Mag is low, this would hurt his damage output. The best way to use him as a Mage is by using his Teal Archetype, which cover the Fire weakness with the Awaken Skill leaving the two Spell Slots open. He would be less versatility though (since he loses Mudo), and would still need high investment. You can also focalize on one elemental skill only by transfering a Boost Skill. On Teal, you can use the second slot to cover the second weakness (by Resist Elec) or to give him Back Attack (which is cheaper and easier to obtain than Assassin. On Red is pretty much the same, but covering one weakness has the precedence (also, the Boost Skill must be Dark Boost, thanks). You can also forsake damage entirely and transfer a Healing Skill (likely Diarama). You should be Teal to do this; the second slot can be either a Buff/Debuff skill or Resist Elec. In this case Gremlin's role would be of a support who can occasionally make you gain turns by hitting Elec and Ice weaknesses.
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