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*Compared to [[Eligor]], Bicorn has higher Agi and MATK (useful for exploiting Fire weaknesses), while Eligor has higher Vit, PATK, Hit ratio, DEF and Phys Resistance. But Eligor is also a white male cisgender alpha male while Bicorn is a friendly bisexual black horse so make your choice. | *Compared to [[Eligor]], Bicorn has higher Agi and MATK (useful for exploiting Fire weaknesses), while Eligor has higher Vit, PATK, Hit ratio, DEF and Phys Resistance. But Eligor is also a white male cisgender alpha male while Bicorn is a friendly bisexual black horse so make your choice. | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | ==== Chagrim ==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | [[Chagrim]] | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Best Archetype(s) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Tier | ||
+ | ! colspan="6" style=width: 200px class="unsortable" | Elements | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Weak !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Normal !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Resist !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Null !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Drain !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Repel | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | [[File:Chagrim.jpg|60px]] || {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear}} || T || Fire || Phys, Ice, Force, Light, Dark || Elec || - || - || - | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | <section begin=tierentry /> | ||
+ | ! colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Skills | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Reverse Fusion | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Innate Transferable | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Innate Normal | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Red}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Yellow}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Purple}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Teal}} | ||
+ | | rowspan="2" colspan="2" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Weakdi]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Zio]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Shock]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Mazio]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Sukukaja]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Agility Amp I]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Resist Dark]] | ||
+ | <section end=tierentry /> | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! colspan="8" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | 6★ Stats | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | AI | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | HP | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Vit | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | PATK | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | MATK | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | PDEF | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | MDEF | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Agi | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Lu | ||
+ | | rowspan="2" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Support | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 1258 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 189 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 548 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 529 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 589 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 585 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 113 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 189 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Pros | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *High Vit. | ||
+ | *Agi is high enough to make for a good Support. | ||
+ | *Sonichu meme. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Cons | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Abysmal MATK that make its kit of offensive spells completely useless (even the discounted Shock). | ||
+ | *Completely relies on transfers to do anything. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Suggestions | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Transfer it [[Samrecarm]] and a "-kaja"/"-nda" spell. Give HP Brands with Ward/Shield subset. | ||
+ | *Do not transfer Healing skills, as its Mag is too low to properly heal. | ||
+ | *If you need it to act earlier, you can instead give it Lead or Speed subset, depending on what you need. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Notes | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Technically the best color would be Yellow, but only Clear and maybe Red (in case it's given for Eclipse events) are available. | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Chupacabra ==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | [[Chupacabra]] | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Best Archetype(s) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Tier | ||
+ | ! colspan="6" style=width: 200px class="unsortable" | Elements | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Weak !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Normal !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Resist !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Null !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Drain !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Repel | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | [[File:Chupacabra.jpg|60px]] || {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear}} || 3 || Elec || Phys, Fire, Ice, Force, Light, Dark || - || - || - || - | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | <section begin=tierentry /> | ||
+ | ! colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Skills | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Reverse Fusion | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Innate Transferable | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Innate Normal | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Red}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Yellow}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Purple}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Teal}} | ||
+ | | rowspan="2" colspan="2" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Mazan]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Stealth]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Auto-Sukuka]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Spirit Drain]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Paraladi]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Hellish Mask]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Resist Elec]] | ||
+ | <section end=tierentry /> | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! colspan="8" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | 6★ Stats | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | AI | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | HP | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Vit | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | PATK | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | MATK | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | PDEF | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | MDEF | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Agi | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Lu | ||
+ | | rowspan="2" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Attack | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 821 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 96 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 588 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 550 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 497 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 488 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 170 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 161 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Pros | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Good Agi and decent Luck meaning it works well as a cheap Evade Tank, even for early PvP. | ||
+ | *[[Stealth]] is a very good Unique which gives [[Endure]] and a passive bonus of +20% to Evasion when triggered. '''This bonus stacks with those provided by skills'''. | ||
+ | *Cheapest demon with an "Auto-" skill, in this case [[Auto-Sukuka]], which further supports its role as an Evade Tank. | ||
+ | *Due to its Luck, can even work as an Ailment inflicter. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Cons | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Weak to Elec (and no Resistances). | ||
+ | *Completely useless against any enemy with skills that don't miss, due to the low Vit. | ||
+ | *[[Stealth]]'s Endure effect must be triggered for the +20% Evade bonus to also be activated. | ||
+ | *Endure-like skills aren't very reliable in PvP anymore due to Mortal effects or even skills that just ignore them. | ||
+ | **Plus, [[Yoshitsune]] is used a lot in low-rank PvP, and his Unique [[Hassou Tobi]] is a Random attack with very high Hit Rate, which will also vanify your Endure-like effect if it hits you more than once (which is highly possile). | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Suggestions | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *It's obviously best against Phys Teams, especially demons with low Accuracy like [[Gogmagog]] or [[Zaou-Gongen]]. Double Dodge Brands are the best choice, but you cans also mix Speed and Dodge if you need to. | ||
+ | *You can give it [[Endure]]/[[Enduring Soul]] to provide more survivability (since Endure-like effects stack). | ||
+ | *Other good skills are [[Sukunda]]/[[Acid Breath]], [[Dodge]] or [[Mahamakajam]]. Avoid giving it both [[Endure]] and [[Dodge]]. | ||
+ | *To run it in an [[Ailment Team]], give it [[Speedster]] and [[Mahamakajam]]. You might be forced to give it Ailment Brands if you lack ways to inflict Weak to the enemy party. | ||
+ | *You can also run it in slow teams due to the utility of [[Auto-Sukuka]]. In this case, keep it Level 1 and give it [[Dodge]], [[Endure]] and/or a Buff/Debuff skill as you see more fitting, considering it will probably die before its turn arrives. Technically, the best transfers to give it in this case are other "Auto-" skills, but are they really worth being spent on a 1★ demon with just occasional use? | ||
+ | **A different tactic for an Evasion Tank [[Chupacabra]], especially in Defense Teams, is to give it [[Enduring Soul]]+[[Recarmdra]] and full Dodge Brands; but again, [[Recarmdra]] is a rare spell and one among the most useful, so same as above. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Notes | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Bring it respect guys. This one is one of the "old glories", even if not as much as Teal [[Ose]]. | ||
+ | *Also cheer to the numerous Bronze Defense Teams that use one, single [[Chupacabra]] and literally no other demon. And no, I'm not only talking about inactive accounts. | ||
|} | |} | ||
Revision as of 02:17, 22 June 2021
Contents
Hi
- Favorite Team so far: Ailment
- Favorite demon (Dx2): Pales
- Favorite demon (every game): ???
- Favorite character (Dx2): Megakin
- Favorite character (every game): ???
- Favorite waifu (Dx2): Rika
- Favorite waifu (every game): Pixie (SMT III)
- Games played: Shin Megami Tensei I, Shin Megami Tensei: Liberation Dx2, Shin Megami Tensei III[1]
- Games I'm planning to play: Raido-o Kuzunoha saga, Persona saga (presumably starting with "Persona 2: Innocent Sin" or "Persona 3"), Shin Megami Tensei II, Shin Megami Tensei IV (both), Shin Megami Tensei V
- What I have to say:
- Why is Mothman a meme?
- Jack Frost was nice, then he got more avatars than Shiva.
- That of Alice and the Counts is the best part of SMT I... if not the only beautiful one.
- Trixie must be summonable in a game sooner or later.
- This game has too many banner exclusives!!! Like, half of them could just be gatcha-only!
- The moment Raido-o Kuzunoha is added in the game, I'll lose a lot of money.
- I'll never understand why the player's nickname has been changed from 'Rookie' to 'Newbie'. The former was nicer.
Reference for Tier table
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Personal Draft about 3★-and-less Demons
(The following is just to have fun or for personal use and is not to be intended as an official guide on the Wiki)
Everyone has that 1/2/3★ demon they have a fondness for, thus desiring to bring them up to 5★ or even 6★. The following is a "guide" intended to help people identify each demon's strengths, weaknesses and best colors, other than the role and the use they might have. It also helps identifying those demons which are actually worth evolving.
Now, those are the reasons you might want to invest in one of those demons:
- You actually very like the demon. Or it's meme.
- The demon can be actually useful.
- They are cheaper to invest in comparing to 4★ and 5★ demons, especially regarding skill points (you can just use copies of the same demon rather than wasting Yasake Magatamas). Unfortunately, the investment for Evolution is unvaried (or even more expensive, in a certain sense).
The Tiers are as following: T: This demon is trash. No reason you should invest in them; actually, they might end up dissatisfying you even if you like them.
1: Useless demons, but not as dissatisfying. They can still have some use for fun.
2: Weak demons which are more likely to do some job in a team, usually due to good stats or skills. They are still useless compared to 4★.
3: Demons with a nice, usually thanks to the good combination of stats and/or good skills. They are of some use in given contexts, and might even make for early cheap PvP teams. They are the equivalent of 2-Tier demons in the normal list.
4: Demons that are actually useful, at least in given contexts. They are nice for early/mid PvE content, and might even make for early cheap PvP teams. It's always better to keep at least one of those demons. They are equivalent of 2-Tier demons of high use/3-Tier demons in the normal list
5: Actually useful demons, who make easier a lot of PvE content. They are not particularly better at PvP than 4-Tier demons, though. They are the equivalent of 3-Tier demons... or even 4-Tiers, in particular, specific cases.
1★ Demons
Agathion
Agathion | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
1 | Ice, Dark | Phys, Force, Light | Fire | - | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||||||
Cursedi | Zio | Mazio | Heat Wave | Mutudi | Luck Amp I | Resist Dark | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Attack |
1206 | 178 | 493 | 645 | 564 | 600 | 105 | 140 | |
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Apsaras
Apsaras | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
2 | Fire | Elec, Force, Light, Dark | Ice | - | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | STILL SEARCHING | ||||||
Posumudi | Bufu | Diara | Bufula | Mecharmdi | Agility Amp I | Resist Elec | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Heal |
1028 | 140 | 510 | 687 | 527 | 569 | 115 | 140 | |
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Azumi
Azumi | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
T | Elec | Phys, Fire, Force, Light, Dark | Ice | - | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||||||
Paraladi | Bufu | Ice Breath | Mabufu | Dia | Life Bonus | Resist Force | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Heal |
896 | 112 | 565 | 603 | 509 | 518 | 147 | 137 | |
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Bicorn
Bicorn | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
2 | Force | Phys, Fire, Ice, Elec, Light | - | Dark | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | Any 3★ Fairy/Vile+3 Slimes | ||||||
Lunge | Agi | Maragi | Heat Wave | Charmdi | Hellish Mask | Resist Light | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Attack |
1169 | 170 | 745 | 624 | 616 | 587 | 81 | 70 | |
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Chagrim
Chagrim | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
60px | T | Fire | Phys, Ice, Force, Light, Dark | Elec | - | - | - | |
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||||||
Weakdi | Zio | Shock | Mazio | Sukukaja | Agility Amp I | Resist Dark | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Support |
1258 | 189 | 548 | 529 | 589 | 585 | 113 | 189 | |
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Chupacabra
Chupacabra | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
3 | Elec | Phys, Fire, Ice, Force, Light, Dark | - | - | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||||||
Mazan | Stealth | Auto-Sukuka | Spirit Drain | Paraladi | Hellish Mask | Resist Elec | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Attack |
821 | 96 | 588 | 550 | 497 | 488 | 170 | 161 | |
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Notes
- ↑ OK, OK, it's very little, I'm working on it, OK!?