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*Bring it respect guys. This one is one of the "old glories", even if not as much as Teal [[Ose]]. | *Bring it respect guys. This one is one of the "old glories", even if not as much as Teal [[Ose]]. | ||
*Also cheer to the numerous Bronze Defense Teams that use one, single [[Chupacabra]] and literally no other demon. And no, I'm not only talking about inactive accounts. | *Also cheer to the numerous Bronze Defense Teams that use one, single [[Chupacabra]] and literally no other demon. And no, I'm not only talking about inactive accounts. | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Cu Sith ==== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | [[Cu Sith]] | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Best Archetype(s) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Tier | ||
+ | ! colspan="6" style=width: 200px class="unsortable" | Elements | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Weak !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Normal !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Resist !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Null !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Drain !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Repel | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | [[File:Cu Sith.jpg|60px]] || {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear}} || 1 || - || Phys, Fire, Ice, Elec, Force, Dark || - || Light || - || - | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | <section begin=tierentry /> | ||
+ | ! colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Skills | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Reverse Fusion | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Innate Transferable | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Innate Normal | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Red}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Yellow}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Purple}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Teal}} | ||
+ | | rowspan="2" colspan="2" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Cleave]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Agi]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Amrita]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Sweet Bite]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Tarukaja]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Life Bonus]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Resist Fire]] | ||
+ | <section end=tierentry /> | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! colspan="8" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | 6★ Stats | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | AI | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | HP | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Vit | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | PATK | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | MATK | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | PDEF | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | MDEF | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Agi | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Lu | ||
+ | | rowspan="2" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Support | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 896 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 112 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 663 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 565 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 532 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 509 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 147 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 112 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Pros | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *1 Null and no weaknesses! | ||
+ | *Innate Support AI meaning you don't have to waste an AI Tendency Selector on it. | ||
+ | *Agi is high enough to work as a Cleric. | ||
+ | *Discounted [[Amrita]] in Clear means you'll be able to heal a demon from ailments each time you reach [[Cu Sith]]'s turn. | ||
+ | *Good doggo. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Cons | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Innate skills are useless to support a build as a Cleric. | ||
+ | *Despite having passable PATK for a 1★ demon, [[Cleave]] is not as useful as its magic counterparts. | ||
+ | *Low Luck means it has low resistance to ailments (which is bad since it is supposed to be a Cleric). | ||
+ | *[[Amrita]] can only heal one demon each use; unless you don't know what ailments you're going against or have problems in bringing more than one AOE "-di" Skill in your team, it isn't usually a great. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Suggestions | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Transfer [[Hellish Mask]] to lower the chance of it getting hit by ailments and consequently heal your party (one by one). | ||
+ | *HP Brands increase its survivability, while Speed or Lead Brands as a subset help it having a better placement in the team. Concentrate on Ailment Resistance% as the secondary stat to boost. | ||
+ | **Assuming you need neither Speed nor Lead, Aim can assist in msking Cleave more reliable. | ||
+ | *[[Samrecarm]] or a Buff/Debuff (likely [[Tarukaja]], [[Sukukaja]] or [[Sukunda]]) are both good options of the second Skill Slot. | ||
+ | *For a more aggressive build, give it War and Aim brands and transfer [[Sukukaja]]. | ||
+ | *If you don't care about Ailment Resistance, you can give it a second [[Samrecarm]]/Buff/Debuff skill or [[Good Aim]] instead of [[Hellish Mask]]. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Notes | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Technically, Yellow would also be a good (if not better) color for it, but the only available color are Clear and maybe Red (assuming it is given for Eclipse - which is actually happened in the past). | ||
+ | *Main source of [[Cleave]]! | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Eligor ==== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | [[Eligor]] | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Best Archetype(s) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Tier | ||
+ | ! colspan="6" style=width: 200px class="unsortable" | Elements | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Weak !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Normal !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Resist !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Null !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Drain !! style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Repel | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | [[File:Eligor.jpg|60px]] || {{ArchIcon|arch=Red}} || 2 || Elec || Fire, Ice, Force, Light || Phys || Dark || - || - | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | <section begin=tierentry /> | ||
+ | ! colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Skills | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Reverse Fusion | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Innate Transferable | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Innate Normal | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Clear}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Red}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Yellow}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Purple}} | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | {{ArchIcon|arch=Teal}} | ||
+ | | rowspan="2" colspan="2" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Any 3★ Fairy/Vile demon + 2 [[Slime]]s + [[Cu Sith]] | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Mudo]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Mow Down]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Endure]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Fatal Sword]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Rakukaja]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Counter]] || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | [[Resist Light]] | ||
+ | <section end=tierentry /> | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! colspan="8" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | 6★ Stats | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | AI | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | HP | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Vit | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | PATK | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | MATK | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | PDEF | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | MDEF | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Agi | ||
+ | ! rowspan="1" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Lu | ||
+ | | rowspan="2" style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | Attack | ||
+ | |- style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center" | ||
+ | | style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 1263 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 190 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 729 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 567 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 634 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 595 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 65 || style="width: 100px" class="unsortable" | 104 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Pros | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *High PATK/Strength for a 1★ demon. | ||
+ | *High Vit, and not only for a 1★! | ||
+ | *1 Null! | ||
+ | *Phys resistance furthering supporting his role as a tank. | ||
+ | *Discounted [[Fatal Sword]] in Red. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Cons | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Low Luck and abysmal Agi means that he will miss a LOT. | ||
+ | **It also means that he will be critted upon often, which weakens his role as a Tank. | ||
+ | *Weak to Elec. | ||
+ | *No innate single-target Phys skill except in Red. | ||
+ | *His basic skills are wasted on him. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Suggestions | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Not having any innate Physical single-target, Red archetype is almost mandatory (and very good regardless). | ||
+ | *[[Counter]]/[[Retaliate]] is a good transfer which takes advantage of his good bulk and the fact he will be hit often. | ||
+ | *[[Wild Guess]] lowers the chance of receiving crit damage, while [[Good Aim]] improves his accuracy. | ||
+ | *For a completely offensive build, [[Good Aim]]+[[Phys Boost]] and War+Aim brands will do the trick. | ||
+ | *For a completely defensive build, run [[Counter]]/[[Retaliate]]+[[Wild Guess]] and HP+Guard brands. You can also use Yellow and completely forget offensive skills completely, although this isn't suggested. | ||
+ | *A hybrid should be Red with any of the above combinations, depending on how much you want to prioritize offense over defense or vice versa. For example, you can go [[Counter]]/[[Retaliate]]+[[Good Aim]] and run War+Aim brands. Aim Brands as a subset must be the only constant. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | Notes | ||
+ | | colspan="7" style="width: 80px" class="unsortable" | | ||
+ | *Compared to [[Bicorn]], Eligor has higher Vit, PATK, Hit ratio, Luck, DEF and Phys Resistance, while Bicorn has higher Agi and MATK (useful for exploiting Fire weaknesses). | ||
|} | |} | ||
Revision as of 09:21, 25 June 2021
Contents
Hi
- Favorite Team so far: Ailment
- Favorite demon (Dx2): Pales
- Favorite demon (every game): ???
- Favorite character (Dx2): Megakin
- Favorite character (every game): ???
- Favorite waifu (Dx2): Rika
- Favorite waifu (every game): Pixie (SMT III)
- Games played: Shin Megami Tensei I, Shin Megami Tensei: Liberation Dx2, Shin Megami Tensei III[1]
- Games I'm planning to play: Raido-o Kuzunoha saga, Persona saga (presumably starting with "Persona 2: Innocent Sin" or "Persona 3"), Shin Megami Tensei II, Shin Megami Tensei IV (both), Shin Megami Tensei V
- What I have to say:
- Why is Mothman a meme?
- Jack Frost was nice, then he got more avatars than Shiva.
- That of Alice and the Counts is the best part of SMT I... if not the only beautiful one.
- Trixie must be summonable in a game sooner or later.
- This game has too many banner exclusives!!! Like, half of them could just be gatcha-only!
- The moment Raido-o Kuzunoha is added in the game, I'll lose a lot of money.
- I'll never understand why the player's nickname has been changed from 'Rookie' to 'Newbie'. The former was nicer.
Reference for Tier table
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Personal Draft about 3★-and-less Demons
(The following is just to have fun or for personal use and is not to be intended as an official guide on the Wiki)
Everyone has that 1/2/3★ demon they have a fondness for, thus desiring to bring them up to 5★ or even 6★. The following is a "guide" intended to help people identify each demon's strengths, weaknesses and best colors, other than the role and the use they might have. It also helps identifying those demons which are actually worth evolving.
Now, those are the reasons you might want to invest in one of those demons:
- You actually very like the demon. Or it's meme.
- The demon can be actually useful.
- They are cheaper to invest in comparing to 4★ and 5★ demons, especially regarding skill points (you can just use copies of the same demon rather than wasting Yasake Magatamas). Unfortunately, the investment for Evolution is unvaried (or even more expensive, in a certain sense).
The Tiers are as following: T: This demon is trash. No reason you should invest in them; actually, they might end up dissatisfying you even if you like them.
1: Useless demons, but not as dissatisfying. They can still have some use for fun.
2: Weak demons which are more likely to do some job in a team, usually due to good stats or skills. They are still useless compared to 4★.
3: Demons with a nice, usually thanks to the good combination of stats and/or good skills. They are of some use in given contexts, and might even make for early cheap PvP teams. They are the equivalent of 2-Tier demons in the normal list.
4: Demons that are actually useful, at least in given contexts. They are nice for early/mid PvE content, and might even make for early cheap PvP teams. It's always better to keep at least one of those demons. They are equivalent of 2-Tier demons of high use/3-Tier demons in the normal list
5: Actually useful demons, who make easier a lot of PvE content. They are not particularly better at PvP than 4-Tier demons, though. They are the equivalent of 3-Tier demons... or even 4-Tiers, in particular, specific cases.
1★ Demons
Agathion
Agathion | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
1 | Ice, Dark | Phys, Force, Light | Fire | - | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||||||
Cursedi | Zio | Mazio | Heat Wave | Mutudi | Luck Amp I | Resist Dark | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Attack |
1206 | 178 | 493 | 645 | 564 | 600 | 105 | 140 | |
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Apsaras
Apsaras | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
2 | Fire | Elec, Force, Light, Dark | Ice | - | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | STILL SEARCHING | ||||||
Posumudi | Bufu | Diara | Bufula | Mecharmdi | Agility Amp I | Resist Elec | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Heal |
1028 | 140 | 510 | 687 | 527 | 569 | 115 | 140 | |
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Azumi
Azumi | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
T | Elec | Phys, Fire, Force, Light, Dark | Ice | - | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||||||
Paraladi | Bufu | Ice Breath | Mabufu | Dia | Life Bonus | Resist Force | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Heal |
896 | 112 | 565 | 603 | 509 | 518 | 147 | 137 | |
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Bicorn
Bicorn | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
2 | Force | Phys, Fire, Ice, Elec, Light | - | Dark | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | Any 3★ Fairy/Vile+3 Slimes | ||||||
Lunge | Agi | Maragi | Heat Wave | Charmdi | Hellish Mask | Resist Light | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Attack |
1169 | 170 | 745 | 624 | 616 | 587 | 81 | 70 | |
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Chagrin
Chagrin | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
T | Fire | Phys, Ice, Force, Light, Dark | Elec | - | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||||||
Weakdi | Zio | Shock | Mazio | Sukukaja | Agility Amp I | Resist Dark | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Support |
1258 | 189 | 548 | 529 | 589 | 585 | 113 | 189 | |
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Chupacabra
Chupacabra | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
3 | Elec | Phys, Fire, Ice, Force, Light, Dark | - | - | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | Multi-Fusion: only available as Clear | ||||||
Mazan | Stealth | Auto-Sukuka | Spirit Drain | Paraladi | Hellish Mask | Resist Elec | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Attack |
821 | 96 | 588 | 550 | 497 | 488 | 170 | 161 | |
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Cu Sith
Cu Sith | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
1 | - | Phys, Fire, Ice, Elec, Force, Dark | - | Light | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | This demon can't be fused from higher fusion materials | ||||||
Cleave | Agi | Amrita | Sweet Bite | Tarukaja | Life Bonus | Resist Fire | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Support |
896 | 112 | 663 | 565 | 532 | 509 | 147 | 112 | |
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Eligor
Eligor | Best Archetype(s) | Tier | Elements | |||||
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Weak | Normal | Resist | Null | Drain | Repel | |||
2 | Elec | Fire, Ice, Force, Light | Phys | Dark | - | - | ||
Skills | Reverse Fusion | |||||||
Innate Transferable | Innate Normal | Any 3★ Fairy/Vile demon + 2 Slimes + Cu Sith | ||||||
Mudo | Mow Down | Endure | Fatal Sword | Rakukaja | Counter | Resist Light | ||
6★ Stats | AI | |||||||
HP | Vit | PATK | MATK | PDEF | MDEF | Agi | Lu | Attack |
1263 | 190 | 729 | 567 | 634 | 595 | 65 | 104 | |
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Notes
- ↑ OK, OK, it's very little, I'm working on it, OK!?