Hell Gongen
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Contents
Overview
Hell Gongen is a term for a team consisting of only Physical Attackers and the two demons Hell Biker and Zaou-Gongen (Hence the name).
Concept
- Hell Biker will go first, casting Red Zone, which gives every member of you team might.
- Combined with Kongo Zaou from Zaou-Gongen, this will also give every member Phys Pierce.
- So now we ignore every NDR we encounter.
- Now our Phys Attackers will clear the wave.
- Best case after all three attacked, the wave will be dead and the rotation begins again.
- This works fully on auto battle too, which means we can use this to farm the content we want and need!
Pros and Cons
Pros:
- Very Powerful Team!
- Capable of farming most content on Auto.
- With slight alterations even Kiwami Bosses can be beaten with this setup.
Cons:
- Fairly hard entry cost due to Demon Requirements - One Gacha Exclusive (albeit 4*) and one 5+4 (cheapest as 5+5) fusion.
- Can be fairly hard to Brand for hardest content.
- Needs certain skills or some Kasane to fully work.
Team
Now lets go in-depth as to how to build this Team.
Demons
To fully utilise this teams potential, an Attacker in this team needs to bring a few things:
- It needs to use its AoE Attack Skill at least three times. (Once per Wave to clear it)
- To do this, there are a two main ways:
- Either transfer Mana Aid.
- Use a low MP skill, so natural MP regen fills enough MP.
- A 5MP Skill (such as Herculean Strike can be used 3 times. To use a 6MP Skill (such as Hades Blast) in this setup, the demon needs Divine Brands.
- Generally 5MP skills are preferred, so we use War Brands.
- There are other shenanigans you can use to do this, such as transfer Mana Bonus or Mana Surge to fiddle around with MP Management, but this guide will not go into these.
- To do this, there are a two main ways:
- It needs to be fairly fast, as to outspeed all encounters.
- As a result we dont need to concern ourselves with any defense.
- And of course, it needs to have high STR as to actually output good damage.
- Best case it also brings a ST Skill for Bosses.
Lets first look at our two core Demons.
Hell Biker
- He needs to spam Red Zone.
- For this he NEEDS the Attack AI Tendency. Do not shift him!
- In order for him to spam Red Zone three times (once every wave), there are two ways:
- Color does not really matter, though Teal or Purple is most used.
- Other colors give more skills, which (in theory) could mess with AI on Auto.
Skills
- If you need two rotations on the boss wave, youd want him to attack as to proc his Critical Hit, so you get another Press Turn.
- As he does not have a good Attack Skill, Deathbound suits him well.
- For second Skill slot, Phys Boost works well, so he does some more damage.
- For Kiwami or other hard bosses, consider a debuff such as Offensive Cry or Acid Breath.
Zaou-Gongen
- Mostly used for his passive effect.
- Since he does have fairly high STR and we need to use him anyway, we will build him to attack.
- For this he needs to be Red. This gives him Herculean Strike at 4MP.
- As his AGI is really low, he needs all the Acc he can get.
Rest of the Team
Now that two of our four slots are filled, we need to think about the other two Demons. Which ones you choose is just what you have (and/or already invested into) and personal preference.
Gacha Exclusives
The best choices are, sadly, Gacha-Exclusive:
Yoshitsune
- Inherent Mana Aid, Vorpal Blade, pretty high STR, decent AGI and one of the best Multi-Hit Attacks in the game, Hassou Tobi.
- If you have him, definitely use him! As Purple he also gains Phys Amp, which really helps his damage.
- Consider transferring Phys Boost and Good Aim (if you struggle with Acc) or Serial Killer (Butcher if you have it) or Berserker.
Asura
- Really good STR, decent AGI, Inherent Mana Aid, Ashura as great ST but also good AoE.
- Essentially Yoshi 1.5. His Purple Archetype also gives him Great Aim (and Phys Amp as Gacha), which helps him with actually hitting.
- Consider transferring Phys Boost and Good Aim (if you struggle with Acc) or Serial Killer (Butcher if you have it) or Berserker.
Guan Yu
- Really good STR, fairly low AGI, but Dragon Blade is the best Skill for this team though!
- Good ST, which then inflicts good AoE Damage! Loyal God of War also regenerates MP on Kill (and gives AC%!), which makes him be able to use it multiple times.
- Archetype does not matter here.
- Consider transferring Phys Boost and Good Aim (if you struggle with Acc) or Serial Killer (Butcher if you have it) or Berserker.
Masakado
- Highest STR in Game, low AGI, good AoE Skill with inherent Vorpal Blade, really good ST Skill Occult Flash.
- Purple Archetype is best, as it gives Phys Amp.
- As he does not have a way to regen MP as the other three do, we need Mana Aid on him. Other Transfer should be Phys Boost.
Other good Gacha Choices include:
Siegfried
- High STR, fairly low AGI, good Passive
- Three ways to build him:
- Red Archetype and Divine Brands to utilize Titanomachia.
- Transfer Hades Blast and use Divine Brands.
- Transfer Herculean Strike.
- Transfers should be Phys Amp and Phys Boost. Good Aim if you struggle for Acc.
Matador
- High STR, really high AGI
- As no AoE Skill is inherent, Red Archetype is recommended for 5MP Hades Blast.
- Transfers should be Phys Amp and Phys Boost. You shouldnt have Acc problems with his amount of AGI and decent luck.
Huang Di
- Pretty high STR, decent AGI, inherent Hades Blast, needs Divine though.
- Archetype doesnt matter
- Transfer Phys Amp and Phys Boost.
- May fuck up with AI using Yinlong Killer...Consider Mana Aid.
Non-Gacha Demons
Now, there are multiple other Demons that fit well in to this team:
Hanuman
- Really high STR, subpar AGI, inherent Vorpal Blade
- Clear Archetype gives 4MP Madness Nails, which enables him to function on War Brands. (also, its cheaper that way)
- Mana Aid is needed because he will prefer Vorpal Blade when there is more than one enemy remaining.
- Other transfer is Phys Amp or Phys Boost.
Pallas Athena
- Decent STR, good AGI,
- Purple Archetype gets Mana Aid, which makes her a budget Yoshi.
- Transfer a high MP Skill like Hades Blast or Vorpal Blade and Phys Boost/Phys Amp.
Wu Kong
- Really high STR, low AGI, decent Luck, inherent Phys Boost
- Archetype doesnt matter.
- Transfer Herculean Strike and Phys Boost/Phys Amp.
Shiva
- Really high STR, good AGI, decent Luck, inherent Vorpal Blade and Serial Killer
- Archetype doesnt matter.
- Mana Aid is needed, other transfer Phys Boost/Phys Amp.
Seth
- Really high STR, decent AGI, really high Luck, one of the best ST Nukes in game with Ouas
- Archetype doesnt matter - Preferably Teal to not fuck up AI.
- Transfer Herculean Strike and Phys Boost/Phys Amp.
Rakshasa
- Really high STR, high AGI, decent luck.
- Archetype doesnt matter.
- Transfer Herculean Strike and Phys Boost/Phys Amp.
Yatagarasu
- Good STR, Really high AGI, inherent Hades Blast, inherent Speedster, inherent Auto-Sukunda
- Low VIT and HP, but evasion makes up for it somewhat.
- Clear Archetype gets Phys Boost. Red Archetype gets Mortal Jihad at 5 MP. Purple Archetype gets Evade and is sometimes used in PvP.
- At level 50, Yatagarasu will have an AGI stat that's two points higher than Hell Biker, making him go first. This is fine for manual play - just Pass on the first action - but for auto-battling you should correct this with Mitama Infusion or Lead Brands. (If two demons have exactly the same AGI, turn order is determined by their placement in the party select screen.)
- Probably the best overall 4* physical attacker, its speed can make it as useful as many of the natural 5* demons.
Alternative to Zaou-Gongen
If you don't have ZG or don't want to use him, you can also use Hell Biker with 3 Phys Pierce Demons. In this case ZGs Unique Ability would be wasted and you can use a better Attacker instead.
The rest of this Guide is still valid, but theres a lot less Demons to choose from in this case.
Our List boils down to:
- Masakado
- Asura
- Mara
- Needs Purple and Mana Aid. Transfer Phys Amp or Phys Boost.
- Huang Di
- Siegfried with Panel 2!
Brands
- Generally you want to use War Brands on all Attackers as to maximise the damage.
- If using a 6MP Skill without Mana Aid, use Divine.
- Second Set for Attackers is generally Aim, unless your Terts are really good and/or you got Panel upgrades for Acc (such as Yoshi Panel 1)
- You want to Aim for 15% to 25% Acc minimum, depending on Demon (AGI and Luck Stat) and Content you want to do (S10 needs more Acc than D10 for example)
- Acc is crucial in Hell Gongen Teams, as a miss can potentially ruin your whole run by killing your team outright or messing up your rotation.
- If you can hit that Acc without Aim Set, you can also go for Speed Set, if needed.
- As mentioned above, Hell Biker needs Divine Set (if maxed Red Zone and no Mana Aid), second Set doesnt matter, can be Speed if you want/need.
- If using Mana Aid, go for War.
- On everything else, go for as much PAtk% as possible.
Perfect RArm/LArm/Legs would look like:
- PAtk% Primary
- PAtk+ Secondary
- Acc% Tert
- Speed% Tert
- Last slot does not really matter, "perfect" would be HP%, but you want every upgrade to go to Acc ideally.
Perfect Head/Body:
- PAtk+ Secondary
- PAtk% Tert
- Acc% Tert
- Speed% Tert (Same as above, you want all upgrades to go to Acc ideally)
Min/Maxing
Alterations for Kiwami
- To easily do Kiwamis, you can change out Phys Boost on most Attackers in a Hell Gongen team with Charge.
- To pull this off, a Yoshitsune is ideal, as his Hassou Tobi is ideal for finishing off the Boss in the end.
- Asura could work too, its untested for now.
- A good Debuff for Hell Biker is recommended, see his section.
- Be sure to outspeed the boss (Check Kiwami for Battlespeed information).
- For most, you do not even need Zaou-Gongen, as there is no NDR Phys.
- Any Kiwami can be cheesed this way except for Orcus, Garuda and Lakshmi.
- Most are very brand-dependant though, as they are still hard encounters.
Steps:
- Start clearing Wave 1, but leave one demon alive with low HP. Leave 2 uses of Red Zone.
- Cast Red Zone, so everyone gains Might.
- Use Charge on all your attackers.
- Pass until everyone is at full MP.
- Kill the last demon using HB.
- As you go first, debuff the enemy team with HB, then clear the adds with your non-Yoshi(or Asura) Attackers. Pass with Yoshi (or Asura).
- When its HBs turn again, use Red Zone again.
- When only the boss is alive, use Hassou Tobi for huge Damage on the Boss.
- If the Boss is not dead, you can either pray one of your attackers survives so he can finish it off or you need better brands.